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    How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    I have like ten old film holders (mostly fidelity) and I have no idea which are light tight. All I want is to find three good film holders. It's really frustrating! Many of them are in bad shape, some with tape that needs to be replaced.

    Is there any way to test without wasting film?

    This was on the edge of one of my chromes...what does that mean?

    Thanks!

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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    The tape at the flap end has not directly related to the light tightness of a film holder.

    It merely serves as a hinge for the light traps that are built into the plastic end flaps.

    Light leakage in film holders is usually caused by worn out felt in the light traps.

    Old worn out plastic holders are usually ready for the dumpster. The easiest way to determine their light fastness is to try them out in the sunshine. Waste a few sheets of less expensive B&W film.

    Your picture shows a possible light leak. Can't tell which end it is leaking from without seeing the notch code.

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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Policar View Post
    I have like ten old film holders (mostly fidelity) and I have no idea which are light tight. All I want is to find three good film holders. It's really frustrating! Many of them are in bad shape, some with tape that needs to be replaced.

    Is there any way to test without wasting film?

    This was on the edge of one of my chromes...what does that mean?

    Thanks!
    Could just be a reflection off the holder - looks pretty small.

    If you take your holders in a darkened room with a flashlight, pull the slides out and shine the light in through the slot you can see if light is leaking. I have some very old film holders that don't leak and some newer ones that do.

    If you don't want to waste film, you can load them with photo paper and take them out in the sunlight for a while.

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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    You can also live with minor leakage like that example... I would just load them and go myself, but when it comes time to track down the culprit - leaking holder - you need to take notes of what you shot with numbered holders - or better yet, file a tiny notch (or six...) in the edge of the folding flap so it shows on the margin of your exposed film.

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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    you could use RC paper and load each holder, leave them in the sun for a while, then develop one by one... any leaks should be apparent

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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    you could use RC paper and load each holder, leave them in the sun for a while, then develop one by one... any leaks should be apparent
    indeed, this is probably the best and most sure way. Some leaks may only be visible in bright light. sacrifice some paper or film, and make notes of what holder goes with each sheet.
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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    Thanks all. I should have anticipated that figuring this out would be time-consuming, painstaking, and expensive--it's large format, after all. I'm going to try the flashlight method first to see if there are any obvious culprits.

    I still have a minor panic attack about film flatness and light leaks every time I take a shot. And it's yet to be a problem, so far as I can tell. I'm just so not used to this.

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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Policar View Post
    I still have a minor panic attack about film flatness and light leaks every time I take a shot. And it's yet to be a problem, so far as I can tell. I'm just so not used to this.
    I would think that the price of a few cheap sheets of b&w film or paper would be worth not feeling this panic everytime you shoot, and it could also help you from not ruining a important shot later on.

    I think its important to be able to trust your gear.

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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    Put the holder on a white piece of paper -- check it every once in a while to see if any darkness has leaked out onto the paper You might need to lift the holder up to make sure it is real filmholder darkness and not just a shadow cast by the holder onto the paper.

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    Re: How to tell if film holders are light-tight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post
    Put the holder on a white piece of paper -- check it every once in a while to see if any darkness has leaked out onto the paper You might need to lift the holder up to make sure it is real filmholder darkness and not just a shadow cast by the holder onto the paper.
    Well....I thought it was a valid question.

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