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    Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    Is anyone using this stuff? I'm talking about the latest generation as shown on the Butler Dearden web site. Could you please comment on how you like it (or not)...
    How does it compare to Platine/Cot320? Thank you!
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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    It is lighter in weight than the two you mention, and has a somewhat yellowish hue.
    I use it for prints up to 9x10 on 11x14 paper, but nothing larger because of paper weight. For its weight, it has good wet strength.

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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    What is it?
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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    archival paper

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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard K. View Post
    Is anyone using this stuff? I'm talking about the latest generation as shown on the Butler Dearden web site. Could you please comment on how you like it (or not)...
    How does it compare to Platine/Cot320? Thank you!
    Yes there are quite a few people using this paper. It's a good inexpensive choice for teaching alt printing workshops and for personal work. I just cut up a stack of 22x34 sheets into 11x14 sheets last night in preparation for printing Agyrotype and Palladium printing this weekend. It's is indeed a cost effective choice. The biggest negative for me is the warm tone color I would much prefer a white like Platine or Cot320.

    I've stopped using Cot320 because of the cost and the fact that seems to be frequently out of stock.

    Comparing Platine/Cot320 - The internal sizing of these papers are different than Weston DP making it's coating properties a bit different. WDP is very absorbent, more so by comparison to Platine/Cot320, though neither of the latter are difficult to coat, IME.

    WDP has poor wet strength, just about any size sheet over 5x7 has a tendency to rip under it's own weight when wet. The work around for that is to use a fiberglass screen to support the paper.

    I would recommend that your purchase a small sample and decide for yourself.

    I did notice a description for a paper named Transvel, touted applicable for plat/palladium printing as well as inkjet printing depending on the version one buys.

    http://www.butlerdearden.com/docs/We...ent%20Plat.pdf

    Scroll to the bottom of the document for description and pricing.

    I called Butler-Dearden to get more information put unfortunately I got placed into voice mail hell.

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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    Quote Originally Posted by D. Bryant View Post
    Yes there are quite a few people using this paper. It's a good inexpensive choice for teaching alt printing workshops and for personal work. I just cut up a stack of 22x34 sheets into 11x14 sheets last night in preparation for printing Agyrotype and Palladium printing this weekend. It's is indeed a cost effective choice.
    That's definitely one of the appeals of this paper the fantastic price when bought in 22x34 size!

    The biggest negative for me is the warm tone color I would much prefer a white like Platine or Cot320.

    I've stopped using Cot320 because of the cost and the fact that seems to be frequently out of stock.
    I'm getting a sample to see if the colour is OK for me. Agree about the price of COT320; luckily I can get a good price when buying 25 sheets of 32x40 Platine at my local art store and I think it's pretty similar to COT320 if not quite identical.

    WDP has poor wet strength, just about any size sheet over 5x7 has a tendency to rip under it's own weight when wet.
    I'll be using this pretty much only for WP so I should be OK...

    I would recommend that your purchase a small sample and decide for yourself.
    Yes a good idea.

    I did notice a description for a paper named Transvel, touted applicable for plat/palladium printing as well as inkjet printing depending on the version one buys.
    I'm getting a sample of this from John Zokowski...
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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_1856 View Post
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    Hi Bill;

    It's paper for Pt/Pd (and I guess other Alt) prints....
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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    WDP doesn't seem to dry or hang flat which can be nuisance depending on how you mount your prints. COT320, in comparison, is very flat; and displays quite well in hinge mounting.
    Btw, B&S is having a special order of COT320; so check their website or contact Leigh Bostick directly. They also do sample packs that may include WDP.

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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard K. View Post
    Is anyone using this stuff? I'm talking about the latest generation as shown on the Butler Dearden web site. Could you please comment on how you like it (or not)...
    How does it compare to Platine/Cot320? Thank you!
    Richard,

    Didn't I give you some of the original product to try? If not lemme know.

    My only beef with the paper is it's physical weight. I prefer a heavier stock paper. Also I found the original stock to easily mark and/or tear after extended 'wet time'. Of course those with a delicate touch who are use to using the original single weight azo may beg to differ.

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    Re: Comments on the New Weston Diploma Parchment

    I have used the Weston Parchement paper with vandke, kallitype and POP palladium. It gives really great DMax for me with all three processes when the RH was 50% or higher.

    The major drawback to the paper is its poor wet strength. Still, with a little care it is possible to make fairly large prints with the paper. I have made quite a number of prints of 22"X28" using single tray processing where the paper is not removed from the tray until after the final wash. It takes more than a little care to process prints this large without tearing the paper, but it can be done.

    Overall I think it is an outstanding value for printing with the iron sensitive processes.

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