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    Surely this so-called requirement to be a ordained minister of the Church must be a misunderstanding by somebody!

    I don't believe that Oxford had such a requirement for teaching staff. The University runs (ran) it's own system with lecturers, professors etc. But it does require that teaching staff have an association with the "self-governing" University Colleges - typically as Fellows. So individual Colleges could have a requirement that Fellow must have at least part I Tripos (exam after 1/2 years) in Divinity. As Dodgson was a third generation at Oxford, he may have joined a "family" college with an organised Christian emphasis. Even in my day - the 60's (I went to "the other place" though - the pale blue), the entry requirement for both Latin and Greek proficiency was only just a thing of the past.

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    I think it was more Dodgson's way of entry as a Don, via the clergy, which would give him the equivalent of a Doctorate (PhD) as a Minister of the Church.

    Ian

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Tribe View Post
    Surely this so-called requirement to be a ordained minister of the Church must be a misunderstanding by somebody!

    I don't believe that Oxford had such a requirement for teaching staff. The University runs (ran) it's own system with lecturers, professors etc. But it does require that teaching staff have an association with the "self-governing" University Colleges - typically as Fellows. So individual Colleges could have a requirement that Fellow must have at least part I Tripos (exam after 1/2 years) in Divinity. As Dodgson was a third generation at Oxford, he may have joined a "family" college with an organised Christian emphasis. Even in my day - the 60's (I went to "the other place" though - the pale blue), the entry requirement for both Latin and Greek proficiency was only just a thing of the past.

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    OK - now I have googled. It was Christ Church College who insisted he take a religious order in order to get his "tenure" as a Fellow of the College. His Tripos part I were Classics (Latin and Greek) and Mathematics. He got the best result of his year for Mathematics. One of his study areas was optics!

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    Ian,
    They don't do PhD's at Oxford, they do Dphil's, it's the same as a PhD but different. Oxford, Cambridge & Durham Dphil's, all the rest PhD's. Don't ask 'cos I don't know. Just because others were photographing young pre-pubersent girls in the nude really does not justify his position, especially if he had possibly taken religous orders.
    Steven, I know that in the early days a degree in "religous stuff" was necessary but I have no idea when that ended. Just to upset you a qualification in ancient Greek is no longer needed to study Classics at the University of Oxford (but I suspect that it helps). Didn't know about the optics thing, thanks for that. As far as I can find out Dodgson did go to "the family college".
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    ...but I'm still waiting to find out what lens he was holding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    ...but I'm still waiting to find out what lens he was holding!
    LOL!! Now I remember why I posted!!
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    I bet it was a Ross lens

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    Pete, as there are probably just a handful of "normal schools" with Greek masters because the extinction of State Grammar Schools, it doesn't surprise me! I was in the period with a Latin requirement which gave me great difficulty ( along with German!) but there was a Greek class for the real Classics scholars.

    I think the objective is a very large rectilinear.

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    Latin was compulsory in the first two years of my secondary education, that was only 12 years ago now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Watkins View Post
    Ian,
    They don't do PhD's at Oxford, they do Dphil's, it's the same as a PhD but different. Oxford, Cambridge & Durham Dphil's, all the rest PhD's. Don't ask 'cos I don't know.
    Pete.
    My brother in law did his PhD at Oxford, it means Doctor of Philosophy in Latin -Philosophiae Doctor. Dphil is more a slang/abbreviated term, not used officially by any University.

    Ian

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