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    New Ilford Positive Papers.

    http://harmantechnologynews.com/2IQ-...U59V96/cr.aspx
    These can be used for pinhole cameras and in some film-sheet holders.

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    Re: New Ilford Positive Papers.

    Paper is not dead!

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    Re: New Ilford Positive Papers.

    uh, Polaroid without the convenience or expense? Or am I missing something? (granted, if you prefer dealing with paper developing to having a reproducible image, it might be useful.)

    I like that it is available, but I don't see much use for it for me.

    As an aside: what is a LOMO type camera?

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    Re: New Ilford Positive Papers.

    How do you dodge and burn in 1/125 of a second??

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    They should rather make Ilfochrome paper and chemicals more readily available…

    David, Lomo is the hype of the moment - a Lomo camera is a cheap crappy plastic thing that will "help" you taking creative photographs… As an aside: paper and reproducible image don't exclude each other…

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    Re: New Ilford Positive Papers.

    Ahem ... Lomos may be "cheap plastic crappy thing", but they use rollfilm, which, during its manufacture, is often cut from the same master rolls from which we get large format sheet film; or, at least, the profits from the selling of rollfilm to Lomo and Holga users helps underwrite the expense of manufacturing master rolls of sheet film.

    In this day and age, all film is good. It's too late to fight antiquated wars over small vs large gauge film, when film itself is a dying breed. We need to thank, embrace even, our small-format brethren, for they are helping to prolong the day when film is no longer available.

    As for this reversal B/W paper, it offers the promise of one-of-a-kind, in-camera images onto a fiber based support that, after toning, could be a very nice photographic artifact. What's not to get?

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    Re: New Ilford Positive Papers.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeV View Post
    In this day and age, all film is good. It's too late to fight antiquated wars over small vs large gauge film, when film itself is a dying breed.
    Joe, you must have misunderstood me - I wasn't saying that the hype Lomo cameras are currently having was bad but that still doesn't make of those cameras anything but a crappy thing (in my very personal view). I am thankful for anything film (but then, once film is gone, you can start making your own emulsion or plates…)

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    Re: New Ilford Positive Papers.

    Quote Originally Posted by csant View Post
    They should rather make Ilfochrome paper and chemicals more readily available…
    Does Harman own the rights to the Cibachrome process? Er, I mean Ilfochrome.

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    Re: New Ilford Positive Papers.

    Quote Originally Posted by csant View Post
    paper and reproducible image don't exclude each other…
    Two options that I can think of: first is scanning and the second is "paper negative" which sort of requires a negative. In the case of positive paper, you can make the FB paper translucent and print through it, but it would require an internegative, I think.

    It seems like a long an grueling process to get to the stage that a film negative leaves you right off the bat. I understand the reasoning behind using paper negatives in pnihole cameras, if you do not already have the inclination to deal with / waste film, but you might as well use regular paper for that.

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    Re: New Ilford Positive Papers.

    I think this is great just for its education value. When I was in Indonesia recently i made a red light out of a plastic sandwich box, and made and developed contacts in a closet for my nieces and nephews, and they were entranced watching the images appear. It would be very easy to do something similar with homemade pinhole cameras and this paper in schools. Real missionary work...

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