I have 2 Dallmeyer lenses. Here is what is scribed on them:
Lens1: #14513 J.H. Dallmeyer
London
No. 3
Rectilinear
PATENT
Lens2: #55441 24x30cm
J.H. Dallmeyer
London
No. 1
Rectilinear
PATENT
Both have rotating disk stops. What do I have here? Two Rapid Rectilinears? Two Wide Angle Rectilinears (WARs)? Or one of each? Which is which? What format will they cover (well the bigger one anyway)?
IMPORTANT: what are their focal lengths? I searched the VM but couldn't quite suss it out.
The reason this has come about is that when I first got these, I did a rough measurement of FL (house across the street projected on my wall) and got around 7" for the first one (the No. 1) and 13" for the second. I had the second one flanged and mounted and when I got it back home from the shop, I checked the FL, this time it seemed around 9". Now my memory isn't great so maybe I'm misremembering the FL, that's why I'm asking what they should be. I don't think the man at the store swapped the rear elements with another lens as he couldn't even find a flange or caps to fit the lens let alone a whole other group. But could he have done something like reverse an element? There was no need for him to do so but I don't understand why the FL seems to have changed. Or was it 9" all along and is it supposed to be that?!? I also (and again, I may be wrong) seem to remember that the rear barrel side was a nice brass colour, now it's blackish. Any ideas sincerely appreciated!
Here is a picture of them:
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