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    Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    You see the Goerz Celor f5.5 mentioned prominently in books like Abel's Professional Portrait Lightings and others.

    One came available recently at a fair price, so I decided to give it a go. The photos were done on 8X10 in setting sunlight with a 42CM Goerz Celor. Wide open mostly, although the first one was stopped well down for depth. I think it has a fine smooth look that would compete well with the competition, like the Wolly Velostigmat, or the Schneider Xenar.


    The lighting would normally be difficult with contrast that would sacrifice either shadow detail or have highlights that are nasty. But the big Goerz seemed to take it all in stride. The already too contrasty Panatomic X produced negatives with a lovely range that would be easily printable. These are film scans, but I've yet to not make a better picture in the darkroom than I can with the scanner.

    I think the big Goerz has well earned it's excellent reputation.

    http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/19...ton_Celor.html

    The Ford? I'm envisioning a 1940's dry lakes highboy with a hopped up Model A or B engine. Sans fenders........of course.

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    Very nice Jim. I can't wait to see more shots and your progress on you Model A. I am glad you won this lens and you are sharing the fruits. I was a click away from bidding on this lens just prior to closing....but the little voice in the back of my head was screaming....NOT ANOTHER ONE! It had only been less than a week since I had purchased my 11x14 Studio Deardorff and could not risk going to the dog house so soon. BTW, let me know if you grow tired of it.

    Jon

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    , another giant, Jim? How nice the Ford!
    Jim, you should thank the little voice in the back of Jon's head.

    Wait to see more photos from you, Jim.
    Truong

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    Would love to see how the Celor matches up with a Dogmar to see why they dropped one for the other.

    Love the cow bell. With a model A you might want to check out:

    www.metalmeet.com/

    Very interesting, at least for me.

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    I like the 3rd photo and the distant mountains in the first

    The truck has a nice "tonka/bruiser/sporty" back end
    tonka only means something to me, I guess
    a nice swoop

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    Jim,

    Love that car. Are you going to spin it down to LA?

    Beautiful look from that lens too.

    Hugo

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    What is a Celor - a triplet?
    Wilhelm (Sarasota)

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_1856 View Post
    What is a Celor - a triplet?
    Thanks all. It's a Dialyt. Like an Artar but with a large aperture. I had a Meyer I thought was pretty nice which is why I thought the Celor might be nice too.

    The Dogmar and Celor are nearly identical except the Dogmar is f4.5 to the Celor f5.5.

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    Well, I have a 1909 300mm f/6.8 Syntor - the pre-Celor and a 1924 420mm f/5.5 Dogmar but I don't have a 1929 Phaeton. I'll figure out a stand in and try them both wide open to compare with Jim's Celor. I think it will require a lot of ND! But, I could try them with Jim's Ortho/Litho at ISO 3. That should work.

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    Re: Goerz Celor on my 1929 Phaeton

    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncey Walden View Post
    Well, I have a 1909 300mm f/6.8 Syntor - the pre-Celor and a 1924 420mm f/5.5 Dogmar but I don't have a 1929 Phaeton. I'll figure out a stand in and try them both wide open to compare with Jim's Celor. I think it will require a lot of ND! But, I could try them with Jim's Ortho/Litho at ISO 3. That should work.
    I'm thinking that Dogmar is a Celor in doggie clothing. But for sure, the only way to properly make a comparison is for you to buy a 1929 Ford.

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