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    Vacuum Film Holders

    Hi all,
    I tried a few searches on here and the net. Found a page where a guy had converted a 4x5 holder:

    http://www.deadbread.com/crumbs/vac.html

    What I wanted to know is...is there an individual or company out there that can convert (or sells) 8x10 vacuum film holders rather than doing it yourself (which I may try).

    Any info is appreciated!

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    For 8x10 you would need more holes to keep your film flat.

    Sinar had a diferent aproach to film-flatness: their Sinar Adhesive Sheet Film Holder.
    What thy did was putting a double sided adhesive sheet in the film holder.
    The long sides were trimed down as you no longer slid the film into place but put the film to a refence edge and gently put the film onto the sheet.

    They were not cheap though, but you could experiment with an old 4x5 holder to start out with.

    Peter

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    Thanks Peter,

    I have seen Vacuum holders in 8x10 that have more holes drilled than this holder I referenced, and have a rough pattern, but am more interested in if anyone makes/converts them on a more regular basis. I know of the Sinar system, but want Vacuum rather than adhesive. Thanks though. I am surprised that there isn't more info on them generally available...

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    Never seen one for sale myself, but they're easy to make. I took an aluminum holder
    and honeycomb-shimmed the backside to prevent the middle partition from deflecting during vacuum draw, then sealed the back with silicone except for the little hole for
    the vacuum hose fitting. A nice X and perimeter pattern of 1/32" holes to the inner
    septum and that was it. Total cost of modifcation about five bucks. A toy train store
    or hobby/model shop is a good place to get the necessary thickness of plastic or brass shim stock. I have described elsewhere on this forum how to make adhesive holders.

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    At F11 the focus spread is almost 3mm, so film would have to be pretty bent out of shape for an 8x10 vacuum back to make an observable improvement in sharpness.

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    Im testing the removable ATG tape for my 12x20 holders.
    I think it should work for 12x20 film and im going to try it for the 9.5" aerial film i have.
    I bought the tape from McMaster Carr Part # 75975A655
    Removable Vinyl Tape-Adhesive Both Sides 1/4" Wide X 72 Yards Long
    http://www.mcmaster.com/#75975a655/=1zn9sj
    Its the last item on the page.
    -Ian Mazursky
    www.ianmazursky.com Travel, Landscape, Portraits and my 12x20 diary
    PrePress Express

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    Quote Originally Posted by IanMazursky View Post
    Im testing the removable ATG tape


    Very helpful, thank you. Although I was primarily looking at Vacuum conversions, `I may well try a tape solution in the meantime.

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    I sold a couple of them to someone on this forum about a year ago.

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    Aha! I found the photos I posted as well if that's any help.

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    Re: Vacuum Film Holders

    "eddie" has a beautiful 11x14 Deardorff for sale with a vacuum film holder. I believe I saw this camera at an estate auction here in the Cleveland, OH area before he bought it. Perhaps you could ask him to photo the back to help you better understand the build requirements.
    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...eardorff+11x14

    John

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