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    Re: X-ray Film example and comparison.

    The green sensitive film will give lighter foliage if processed "normally".Here is a crop from an 11x14 green sensitive neg of wild columbine. The flowers are red and foliage is a medium green.

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    Brian, that looks more like I expected. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by photobulley View Post
    The green sensitive film will give lighter foliage if processed "normally".Here is a crop from an 11x14 green sensitive neg of wild columbine. The flowers are red and foliage is a medium green.
    Brian, thanks for giving me this information. It helps if I can visualize the effects. As I recall in a past post you posted a shot done with a soft focus lens that I was very impressed with. This is a very nice image also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Dudenbostel View Post
    I would suggest trying mamography film. It comes in odd sizes but its single coated on one side and fairly durable. I use it in special xray applications and find kodak and agfa to be finer grain than traditional double coated film. I need more contrast in what I do and run it in D19 1:1 and have used HC110 1:31 with good results. You also might try industrial fray film. I think most are single coated and come in sizes that might work well for pano cameras.
    Don, do you have a source for mammography film... I have found very few on-line x-ray product stores that sell it and the ones that do only have Kodak brand which is 4 times the price of regular blue sensitive (8x10). Or perhaps I am looking at the wrong types of suppliers.
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    Thanks Ed,

    That is most helpful. If anybody orders the stainless I would be interested in hearing if it punctures the film or not. Anyhow, it looks like I will be building some tanks.

    jason

    Quote Originally Posted by EdWorkman View Post
    Here's my answer to Gene, perhaps others can use this info

    Hi Gene
    I spent hours a year or so ago surfing the web for info about using Xray film
    Your posts have been most helpful
    In all that info, I found suppliers of hangers - and some very weird sizes
    So you can exhale :>) here are some urls- I didn't post them account I didn't know if they were really of interest
    Stainless with a picture and pricing @ $41.80 each {hmm do one have to buy more than 1?]
    http://www.quickmedical.com/wolf_xra...g_hangers.html
    plastic 14x17, small photo
    this is the hack candidate
    http://www.xraysupercenter.com/show....umParam=PMPH17
    I chased down the manufacturer's site and saw the same photo- can't recall if the type of "poly" is stated anywhere, but if/when I get off my duff into 7x17 I will pop $14 and a hacksaw- if you don't first :>)
    hope this helps you
    regards, and thanks again- keep them coming
    Ed

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    The best place to find Mamo film cheap is ebay or check with your local hospital or diagnostic center. Most have or are going digital and throwing this film away.

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    Re: X-ray Film example and comparison.

    Wes,

    Mamography film is expensive. Single sided, orthochromatic. Just like rgular film. Almost.

    http://www.zzmedical.com/zencart/fil...-c-28_103.html

    I also see x-ray duplicating film. Has anyone used this film in an enlarger to make duplicate negatives for contact printing?
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    Re: X-ray Film example and comparison.

    I have an idea for some hangers that I am going to try for 11x14. I have some now but they are for regular film. They have a sheet of dimpled plexi that holds the film off of the surface. Another photographer gave them to me with the tanks and I have not used them yet. Like I said I have an idea to make some like the Kodak hangers that I have in 8x10. I'll be sure to post my results with pictures when I get them done. i think I'll try the ones I have now and see if they work.

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    Re: X-ray Film example and comparison.

    Venchka
    I have used what I am morally certain is Xray dupe, albeit "continuous tone direct positive" from Photo Warehouse
    Blue base, round corners...
    It is very slow, but I have, in desperation perhaps, used it in projection mode- Beseler 8x10 cold light. i rescued a 116 size neg that had greatly faded since 1941 or so, and I used the dupe to raise contrast as well as density. Hmm probly the time wasn't that bad for that neg, as it was extremely thin. Other things i tried from more normal old negs, took 5 or more min of exposure.
    Under those extremes I got a fairly gritty look, but a printable negative.

    I actually pried myself out of a long funk to develop film yesterday, and if the motivation lasts for a coupla more days [ i hope I hope] I'll go try some prints from more of the enlarged dupes and report further.
    Should work if you have enough time or LOTS of light- The cost-benefit ratio of a 25 sheet package should pay off, I think.

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    Re: X-ray Film example and comparison.

    I should add that typically I have processed the xdupe in developers meant for paper- the gallon liquid concentrates from Freestyle and Photwarehouse and most recently [ has it been two years ??? ] the film versions. Developing times are short , in the two minute range, with either and contrast is easier to control with the film version, not surprisingly.
    Here's a watch out.
    These developers can stain paper and mottle dupe film as they weaken/age and water rinse is used for stop- but then I should probably be called a "sloppy worker"....

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