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    Anyone have experience using Na2 Pt/Pd and regular Pt/Pd ?

    I understand the Na2 is used mostly as a contrast boost, and it can be a significant increase. If I'm looking for contrast change, is it easier to control that by just adding a drop or two of Pt vs using Na2 ?

    I'm working with in camera negatives if that matters (5x7 up to 7x17)


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    Re: Anyone have experience using Na2 Pt/Pd and regular Pt/Pd ?

    Yes, in an Na2-based process it is used to increase contrast. If you buy pre-mixed, it typically comes in either a 5% or 20% solution. And, yes, it's powerful stuff so you need to be careful. I don't use it much anymore, but back when I did I had several dilutions available to me down to 2.5%. Just don't mix Na2 with any mix that includes platinum. If you want to go with straight palladium or a pt/pd mix, potassium dichromate can be used to increase contrast. Also, you might research a bit on the ABC method.

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    Re: Anyone have experience using Na2 Pt/Pd and regular Pt/Pd ?

    thanks Alan ! I may get the Na2 kit cuz Bostick and Sullivan can't ship Potassium Dichromate up here. Cld try and find it locally but might be easier to get the Na2 and adjust the dilution.
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    Re: Anyone have experience using Na2 Pt/Pd and regular Pt/Pd ?

    For about a year now, I've been successfully using the formulas found here: http://texaschrysotype.com/pdfs/21stCenturyAlchemy.pdf
    I have found they are easy to adjust for contrast, and the fact that they print-out take much of the guesswork out of it. No need for test strips or any of that, just check it as it's printing out and stop when it looks good. Development is just a matter of washing out the iron. Overall contrast is similar to develop-out platinum, so a negative suitable for that works well with this.
    If you're interested in trying it, I'm more than happy to give advice.

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    Re: Anyone have experience using Na2 Pt/Pd and regular Pt/Pd ?

    Fred - Ian Leake wrote an excellent article on Pt Pd printing, you are welcome to drop by and borrow my copy to see if it fits your needs, If I did not go down the digital negative route I would have used his method of having different contrast developers, makes a ton of sense to me.

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    Re: Anyone have experience using Na2 Pt/Pd and regular Pt/Pd ?

    Quote Originally Posted by martiansea View Post
    For about a year now, I've been successfully using the formulas found here: http://texaschrysotype.com/pdfs/21stCenturyAlchemy.pdf
    I have found they are easy to adjust for contrast, and the fact that they print-out take much of the guesswork out of it. No need for test strips or any of that, just check it as it's printing out and stop when it looks good. Development is just a matter of washing out the iron. Overall contrast is similar to develop-out platinum, so a negative suitable for that works well with this.
    If you're interested in trying it, I'm more than happy to give advice.
    thanks ! more reading material
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    Re: Anyone have experience using Na2 Pt/Pd and regular Pt/Pd ?

    Quote Originally Posted by bob carnie View Post
    Fred - Ian Leake wrote an excellent article on Pt Pd printing, you are welcome to drop by and borrow my copy to see if it fits your needs, If I did not go down the digital negative route I would have used his method of having different contrast developers, makes a ton of sense to me.

    thanks Bob. I really should sit down with Dick Arentz's book since it's in my pile of *have to reads* haha

    While I want to stick to in camera negatives, I do see a time when I might have an image that I want larger than say 2 1/4x 2 1/4 and will need to go digital.
    notch codes ? I only use one film...

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    Re: Anyone have experience using Na2 Pt/Pd and regular Pt/Pd ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred L View Post
    While I want to stick to in camera negatives, I do see a time when I might have an image that I want larger than say 2 1/4x 2 1/4 and will need to go digital.
    Not necessarily...you could enlarge a small negative on to Ortho Lith film (creating a positive), then contact print that for a negative to be printed conventionally.

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