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Thread: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

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    Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    Here is a no name Petzval lens bid up to over $800 US on the big auction site from a seller named cia_love_animal in Australia.

    I am just learning about some of these antique lenses, but don't these usually go for waaay less than this?

    Why is this one getting 4 to 5 times normal prices?

    I'm confused!
    Jim Cole
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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    Jim

    I think your instincts are correct - no reason this should sell this high... it doesnt even have a flange. I sold a very nice Petzval here last week for $ 205
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220378671967

    And a sold a very nice CC Harrison 1/4 plate Petzval for $ 549, see http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220379902238

    possible bidding manipulation going on....?!@?!?@....one bidder has 75% activity with that seller...I dont know and I am not accusing - but take a look and judge for yourself...

    The seller has done a good job on the ad...posting an image from the lens is a great idea when selling Petzvals...its all about the swirl and the 3d effect....

    Dan

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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    When you folks get it figured out, please explain this one to me:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EOISSA:US:1123.

    I'm the seller of this one and I know this lens was worth more than the paltry $42.15 it brought - especially when another Petzval sold a just a few weeks before for $677!

    I wouldn't doubt the idea of shill bidding with the seller the OP referenced. Of course, nothing can be proved, but that seller has been the subject of much discussion.

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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    Will, your lens is a magic lantern / stereopticon / projection lens with no flange, and questionable glass...I'd say $ 42 is in the park....sorry....

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    wfwhitaker
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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    The $677 lens was a magic lantern lens, too, I believe.

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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    I venture to say the $ 677 lens was bid manipulated too.

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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    There is a bell curve for Ohboy auctions. If you watch enough of them, you get a better sense of the real going rate. Sometimes a couple of newbies fight over a lens, and sells for higher than expected. But basically, what makes a petzval go for more are:
    - complete with flange and hood
    - larger focal lengths
    - recognized "hot" maker
    - actual photo lens vs magic lantern (though sometimes this gets reversed for a few auctions)
    - accessories like waterhouse stops or lenscap
    - excellent condition
    etc....

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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    Interesting stuff here. Thanks for all the responses. Glad I'm not totally nuts.
    Jim Cole
    Flagstaff, AZ

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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    "I'm confused!"

    Join the club.
    When I grow up, I want to be a photographer.

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    Re: Am I missing something here? Petzval auction

    The lens in question is an ordinary magic lantern petzval as pedestrian as they get. There is no waterhouse slot. No makers name. This is insanity.

    Both front and rear glass like quiet lake.

    Hello! Does this guy take consignments. Am I missing something indeed. There IS not a dimes worth of difference between Wills $42 lens and the one that will finish over $800 in an hour. OK, I need to go in the corner and bump my head against the wall slowly for a while.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep..to gain that which he cannot lose. Jim Elliot, 1949

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