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    Eh I'll take VPS over EPP anyway, I am scanning stuff from the pre-digital times and it is comparable to modern Portra films. As for it's archival qualities, who knows but so far so good after 20-25 years.

    The old workflow meant giving the client chromes and then hoping they came back in good condition after being mangled by the drum scanner technicians.

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    Re: safe haven for tiny formats

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    Austin,
    That is absolutely amazing. I don't know how you do it. (Did they get scale, or TFP?)

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    Hi Frank,

    You where lucky if you got the chromes back at all many times.

    in 35mm you could almost publish a single full page image from a chrome ( used to call them trannies back then ) but you would lose much more quality with c41.

    epr epn pushed a stop but later Astia took over. everyone was shooting it so its what the AD's expected

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian kraus View Post
    Hi Frank,

    You where lucky if you got the chromes back at all many times.

    in 35mm you could almost publish a single full page image from a chrome ( used to call them trannies back then ) but you would lose much more quality with c41.

    epr epn pushed a stop but later Astia took over. everyone was shooting it so its what the AD's expected
    In hindsight I figured it was because of the drum scanners prejudice and lousy software, because you could make a fine enlarger print from a 35mm neg so the sharpness was there, just not the willingness on the prepress side. They really clung to their chrome workflow until the bitter end.

    I used to try to get a good 4x5 interneg made before shipping the film off but time was never on my side.

    Now I have several feet of notebooks full of 35mm slides, some are dupes, some are outakes, going back and figuring it all out is huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    Austin,
    That is absolutely amazing. I don't know how you do it. (Did they get scale, or TFP?)

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    Thanks Leigh. I have a truck full of trained animals I employ for such photos. OK, I was just in the right place at the right time. What impresses me are the photographers who can make good, spontaneous pictures of humans. Geese are easy compared with that.

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    - Frank At least you'll always have them and not lose them to a computer crash.

    One of the reasons for chromes was drum scanning like you mentioned.
    You could get a decent print off of a neg, but when you drum scan you have to adjust the aperture to avoid grain aliasing, which would emphasize the grain greatly.
    With chromes I drum scan at a f stop of 6 microns with color neg film its 13-19 microns. that has a considerable effect on the scan sharpness. hence the scanners could give a much better file from a chrome.
    Also not having to do the neg conversion and additional color correcting was a big factor esp considering the computer power of the day. I would sometimes order 10x8 prints and have the print scanned if going big. I went from a crop of lips from a headshot on BW 35mm to a large shop window background from drum scanning a 10x8 print. color is off in this scan not the original poster, the shot the street taken with a perkeo, the lips a nikon f3. high st kensington london





    - Austin. I agree with Leigh, that last shot is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austin granger View Post
    Geese are easy compared with that.
    Yes, we all see gaggles of geese all the time. But a gap of geese at just the right place is awesome.

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    Here are a couple of pictures of my father I made last weekend. I wish some things were different, and that I'd done them better, but it wasn't planned, and it was all very quick. If you're going to photograph my father you'd best be fast and be done with it. The first one is a little hard for me to look at, because he seems so weary and weighted down, but I think it's the stronger of the two. What do you think?





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    Quote Originally Posted by ian kraus View Post
    - Austin. I agree with Leigh, that last shot is awesome.
    Thanks Ian. I'm enjoying the addition of your work to this great thread.

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