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    Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    Just thought some people might be interested.

    The "not the serial number book but" list of Graflex and Graphic serial numbers is now available to view, comment and expand on the Graflexchange. A direct link is:

    http://www.southbristolviews.com/gra...ange/index.php

    I'm not sure what happened on graflex.org with this, but it's now available again...

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    I found the serial number listing on the Graflex.org site quite easily and found the date of manufacture for 2 of Graphics. It is useful to have a resource for buying/selling Gralflex parts etc a sadly lacking feature of Graflex.org.

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    Ian, when did you last look up a serial number over there? As of August, they removed the serial number section of the forum. Seems to be some bruised ego problems, or maybe a power struggle? Don't really care as the serial number and "book" problem will be resolved one way or the other...

    The Graflexchange was started quite a while ago for the very reason that graflex.org did not allow and form of wanted/sales posts. It's sorely under-used though as most people seem to be more interested in making money on the auction site than helping other Graflex users... It has helped a few though.

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    I seem to remember the Serial no's being in a Forum thread. I copied them along with Schneider, Rodenstock & Zeiss serial no's from somewhere else into an Open Office document for quick reference.

    When I made a request for help finding parts on the Graflex.org site I got abuse from a few members, but not the site organisers (who defended my right to post) as I hadn't mentioned money or payment. That seemed stupid as surely the Graflex.org site is about helping each other.

    In many ways it's a pity that they have made it necessary the need for a site such as yours, which I'm sure will become more useful in the future.

    Ian

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    My Autograflex is not on it, its in the 4,000's.

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    A "4,000's" Autograflex would be in the neighborhood of 1926 or a bit later...

    I'm working on making the entire book available but we'll see where that goes as the actual owner of the "book" is no longer with us. I never could understand why folks at graflex.org tried so hard to prevent anyone from seeing the book?

    If anyone has serial number questions about their cameras, I will do my best to answer them over at the Graflexchange...

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by RichSBV View Post
    A "4,000's" Autograflex would be in the neighborhood of 1926 or a bit later...

    I'm working on making the entire book available but we'll see where that goes as the actual owner of the "book" is no longer with us. I never could understand why folks at graflex.org tried so hard to prevent anyone from seeing the book?

    If anyone has serial number questions about their cameras, I will do my best to answer them over at the Graflexchange...
    I'm afraid you're off track there. My autograflex has the clamshell top, not the later chimney top. I was told by Fred Lustig that these were on only the earliest Graflexes.

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    Oh, Oh, now I'm gonna list a few numbers...

    #1, Century, # 514897, Lens Ektar EO14314, ending with 'L' in a circle, VGC

    #2, 2x3 Crown, # 733015, Lens Ektar EI1265, with the same 'L', VGC

    #3, Century, # 509697, Kodak Anastigmat, no #, f4.5 10.5 cm, GG focus and frame only, PDG

    #4, 2x3 Speed, No serial #, Kalart has #, Ektar EI822 'L', VGC

    #5, 2x3 Crown, # 439955, lens Graflex Trioptar, GG only, user

    #6, 3x4 Speed, No serial #, lens Jena, Nr.2375079, f4.5 11.5 cm, User cond Lens VGC sticky shutter

    #7, 3x4 Speed, parts camera

    #8, 4x5 Speed, International back, VGC, can't get to it right now.

    Then there's B&J, Busch, and Horseman, but nobody cares for them.

    I actually never before counted them, they just keep showing up!

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

    You're 100% right and I have no idea how I came about that date?

    "the book" only starts at 1915 with serial numbers in the 47xxx range. Just a bit higher than 4000... Sorry about that and there's no way I could possibly date such an early number...

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    Re: Graflex and Graphic serial numbers

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    476861 – 70mm combat graphic --1956
    448826 – 2x3 pacemaker speed -- 1948
    448870 – 2x3 pacemaker speed – late 1947
    485150 – Graflex View II – 1961 or 1962
    449420 – 2x3 pacemaker speed -- 1947
    449676 - 2x3 pacemaker speed — late 1947/early 1948
    503636 - Century – 1949 -1950
    504832 – Century – 1949-1950
    505660 – Century --
    506802 – Century – late 1949
    507248 – Century -- 1949
    508311 – Century – 1949 or 1950
    508923 – Century -- 1949 or 1950
    509011 – Century – 1950
    510967 – Century -- 1950
    513162 – Century – 1950-1951
    517253 – Century -- 1951
    523213 – century -- 1954
    527202 – Century – early 1960
    528296 – Century -- 1961
    528734 – Century (F2A) -- 1962
    529178 – century – 1962, august
    532951 – Century – 5/1965
    531994 – Century -- 1963
    533833 – Century – 1964
    534550 – Century (A7B) -- 1967
    535474 – Century – guessed at 1966 or 1967 beyond
    535916 – Century (A8A) – 1968
    640660 – Super Graphic – 1957 Supers start at s/n 640000
    646687 – Super Speed – 1959 or 1960
    646731 – Super Speed – 1958
    647661 – Super Speed - 1958
    648819 – Super speed – 1960
    648226 – Super Graphic -- 1960
    653715 – Super Speed – 1964
    653928 – Super Graphic -- 1964
    700583 – Speed -- 1949
    700782 – 2x3 pacemaker speed – 1947
    702513 – 2x3 pacemaker speed --
    702540 – 2x3 pacemaker speed – 1948
    702760 – 2x3 pacemaker speed –
    706289 – 2x3 pacemaker speed – 1950
    708316 – crown --
    708752 – crown view --
    709934 – 2x3 pacemaker -- fall 1950
    710103 – 2x3 crown -- 1950
    711643 – 2x3 crown – 1951-1952
    714194 – 2x3 pacemaker speed
    714427 – 2x3 pacemaker speed -- 1953
    714820 – 2x3 crown – 1953
    725928 - --
    730569 – 2x3 crown -- 1950
    731262 – 2x3 crown -- 1950
    733153 – 2x3 crown – 1948?
    733683 – 2x3 pacemaker speed – 1949?
    733964 – 2x3 crown – 1952
    751020 – 3x4 pacemaker speed – 1949
    751049 – 3x4 anniversary – 1946?
    752395 – 3x4 pacemaker speed – 1949
    752399 – 3x4 pacemaker speed --
    756085 – 3x4 crown -- 1952
    757144 - 3x4 crown — late 1952/early 1953
    800830 – pacemaker speed – 1949-1950
    801176 – 3x4 crown – earliest in book 802602 in 1950
    820534 – 4x5 pacemaker speed -- 1948
    820986 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1949
    821775 – speed --
    823460 – pacemaker speed – 1949?
    825224 – 4x5 speed – 1949 or 1950
    825252 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1949
    829099 – pacemaker speed --1948-1949
    829350 – 4x5 pacemaker speed, military –1954
    830307 - pacemaker speed – 1949?
    832222 – pacemaker speed -- 1948?
    832434 – speed – 1948-1949
    832683 – pacemaker speed – 1949-1949
    833035 – pacemaker speed --
    836449 – pacemaker speed -- 1949
    839610 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1948
    841679 - 4x5 pacemaker speed -- 1948
    842182 – pacemaker speed – 1948
    843145 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1948
    846237 – 4x5 pacemaker speed -- 1950
    846278 – pacemaker speed -- 1950
    846346 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1950
    847630 - 1950
    847678 – 4x5 pacemaker speed -- 1950
    852552 – crown – 1950
    853070- 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1950
    853078 - --
    858257 – pacemaker speed – 1950
    859543 – Speed, Black – late 1950
    860467 – pacemaker speed – late 1950 –early 1951
    864199 – pacemaker speed – 1951
    864887 – crown – 1952
    865971- 4x5 pacemaker speed -- 1951
    866825 – crown – 1949-1950
    867408 – 4x5 crown – late 1952 to early 1953
    868468 – pacemaker speed -- 1951
    869804 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1951
    871786 – crown --
    872795 – pacemaker speed -- 1951
    873013 – pacemaker speed – 1951
    873077 – crown -- 1951
    873699 – pacemaker speed -- 1951
    873704 – crown -- 1951
    875725 – crown – 1952
    875719 – speed --
    877060 – 4x5 pacemaker speed -- 1952
    877143 – crown – 1952
    877652 – 4x5 crown – 1952
    878302 – 4x5 pacemaker speed --
    879590 – crown --
    879913 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1953
    879936 – pacemaker speed -- 1952
    880105 – 4x5 crown -- 1953
    880476 – 4x5 crown --
    881105 – speed – 1953
    881212 – crown -- 1953
    881378 – pacemaker speed – 1953 or 1954
    882550 – 4x5 crown – 1953
    882738 – 4x5 crown --
    883126 - speed -- 1953
    883441 – 4x5 crown -- 1953
    883464 – crown – 1953
    884051 – pacemaker speed -- 1953
    885067 – crown – 1953
    885579 – 4x5 crown 1953 or 1954
    886402 – crown – 1953
    886161 – crown -- 1951
    888157 – 4x5 crown – 1953
    888821 - -- 1953
    889795 – crown --
    890184- pacemaker --
    892030 –
    895391 - --
    902460 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1955
    903057 – 4x5 pacemaker speed -- 1955
    903511 – 4x5 pacemaker speed –1954
    903531 – 4x5 crown --
    906490 – pacemaker speed --1955
    907537 – crown
    911463 – pacemaker speed –1956
    911851 – pacemaker speed – 1956
    912462 – pacemaker -- 1956
    914599 – crown -- 1956
    915057 - crown
    915952 – crown – 1956
    916842 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1956
    918487 – crown -- 1956
    919489 – crown -- 1956
    919713 – crown – 1956
    920010 – crown –
    921144 – crown -- 1956
    921230 – crown – 1956 or 1957
    921235 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1956
    921798 – crown --
    922849 – crown –1957
    922691 – 4x5 pacemaker speed – 1956
    924133 – crown -- 1956
    925156 – crown -- 1957
    925472 – crown -- 1957
    926810 – crown -- 1957
    928713- side rf crown -- 1957
    929599 – crown – 1958
    932529 – crown -- 1959
    938136 – crown -- 1959
    935638 – crown – 1959
    936431 - -- 1959
    936509 – 4x5 crown – 1959
    938131 – crown -- 1959
    938538 – 4x5 crown – 1959
    938745 – 4x5 crown --
    939928 – 4x5 crown –1959
    941113 - -- 1959-1960
    942501 – FP Speed -- 1960
    943146 – 4x5 crown – 1960
    943246 – crown -- 1960
    945610 – crown – 1960
    946538 – crown – 1962
    948034 – crown --
    950070 - crown -- Aug. 1962
    950508 – crown -- 1963
    952269 – crown – 1962?
    954527 – crown -- 1962
    954772 – 4x5 crown, side rf –
    956346 – 4x5 crown – 1962
    957448 – crown --
    960544 – 4x5 crown – 1961
    961224 – 4x5 crown – fall 1962
    961761 – crown – 1962
    964631 – 4x5 crown -- 1962
    964799 – pacemaker speed – 1962
    966160 – crown --
    966405 – 4x5 crown – 1962
    967762 –“ Heinz 57” crown – Sept. 1964
    969578 –
    970883 – Crown (J3A) -- 1963
    973592 – crown -- 1963
    976273 – crown – Feb. 1965
    974135 - 4x5 crown (e4a) - April 1964
    974728 – crown (f4a) – May 1964
    976761 – speed – 1964?
    978635 – 4x5 crown -- December 1964
    980335 – crown -- guessed at 1965
    981511 – crown – estimate 1967 or 1968
    982046 – crown --
    984538 – crown – estimated at 1968
    985310 – crown -- 1968
    985320 – crown (J8A) – 1968
    987845 – crown --
    989641 – crown – may 1972
    990198 – crown – 1973 or 1974
    990367 – crown (H2B) -- 1972[/i]

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