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    Re: UV bulb in enlarger?

    I had been contacted a few years ago about such a solution for LF negatives using high powered 365nm UV LEDs in the enlarger head, but after some calculations decided to not go that way...
    Klaus

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    Re: UV bulb in enlarger?

    Quote Originally Posted by photographe_primitif View Post
    I've been experimenting with UV light in an old Prinz 500 enlarger for a week. The results are promising. It works.

    I shoot with antique cameras and usually make contact cyanotype prints. I wanted to enlarge without a separate digital negative process. I also started using a 35mm half frame camera (Universal Mercury II) and wanted to enlarge the half frames onto cyanotype. While it does take time for enough UV to pass through the glass optics, the only issue is the amount of time. Early tests required 5hr exposures with a 20w LED bulb.

    I probably wouldn't have tried but for the lengthy explanations of why it couldn't be done!
    I had been contacted about that a while ago, made some calculations and came out with several hours of needed exposure, so dropped that plan then.
    Thanks for the confirmation!
    Klaus

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    http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV diary

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    Re: UV bulb in enlarger?

    Klaus, thank you for your considered views and experiments

    Some are lax on Copyright

    Quoting sources IS a problem as few were taught to do that
    Tin Can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    Klaus, thank you for your considered views and experiments

    Some are lax on Copyright

    Quoting sources IS a problem as few were taught to do that
    I'm admin in a large photo forum, there I would be issuing a 1st warning, 2nd would be removal of the poster ;-)
    Klaus

    http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
    http://www.pbase.com/kds315/ for UV Images and lens/filter info
    http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV diary

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    Re: UV bulb in enlarger?

    Well, about the topic: today things ahev changes a bit, as high powered 365nm UV LEDs have gotten much cheaper and using some in a suitable condensor head would bring down exposure times considerably - IF and only IF a suitable UV passing lens would be used. THAT still is quite a challenge still, as many do not work. A suitable triplet lens with single or no coating would do, but would have to be stopped down - AND there is the focusing issue as those leses have considerable focus shift.

    One would have to use some paper with fluorescent paint to focus on, then replace that with the photo sensitive paper and do teh exposure...
    Klaus

    http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
    http://www.pbase.com/kds315/ for UV Images and lens/filter info
    http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV diary

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    Re: UV bulb in enlarger?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrus View Post
    Which glass? Don't contact print frames use glass too?
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    Coatings sometimes block UV, so depending on the lens version a difference may be there.


    Probably a condenser type enlarger may be better for UV LEDs, as difusser type are way less efficient.

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    Re: UV bulb in enlarger?

    Very interesting and thank you for posting

    Your links will be explored, over time

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Klaus Schmitt View Post
    Well, about the topic: today things ahev changes a bit, as high powered 365nm UV LEDs have gotten much cheaper and using some in a suitable condensor head would bring down exposure times considerably - IF and only IF a suitable UV passing lens would be used. THAT still is quite a challenge still, as many do not work. A suitable triplet lens with single or no coating would do, but
    woudl have to be stopped down - AND there is the focusing issue as those leses have considerable focus shift.

    One would have to use some paper with fluorescent paint to focus on, then replace that with the photo sensitive paper and do teh exposure...
    Tin Can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pere Casals View Post
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    Coatings sometimes block UV, so depending on the lens version a difference may be there.


    Probably a condenser type enlarger may be better for UV LEDs, as difusser type are way less efficient.
    Yes, but that used rather thin glass in contact frames transmits UV rather well, still
    Klaus

    http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
    http://www.pbase.com/kds315/ for UV Images and lens/filter info
    http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV diary

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    Re: UV bulb in enlarger?

    One of the biggest hassles in alt processes is making a full-size positive
    I thought that was the easy part. I made some big negatives but gave up trying to make the platinum paper work right and went back to commercially produced silver paper.

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    Re: UV bulb in enlarger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Klaus Schmitt View Post
    If you use my work from my site which clearly states "All text and images carry my copyright and I do not allow to link to or copy / download from my site or any parts thereof without my prior permission." then AT LEAST quote my copyright!!
    Where on this picture is indicated that it is not to be copied, cited, or otherwise used? Given that I found it in Google and I have no idea about your site - file a claim with Google. Or close your site from indexing by search engines.
    And there is no need to scream like that - excessive emotions negatively affect health )))

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