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    Dumb question about film processing drums

    Hi all, maybe this one will be the "newbie of the year" question...
    anyway, I'd like to try b/w film developing at home.
    I'm shooting 4x5 and 5x7, so I've read that a Jobo 3006 is needed in order to do the job.
    What else will I need, except chemicals?
    doesn't one just fill the drum with chemicals and roll it by hands?

    thanks,
    andre

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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    There are numerous ways to develop your film. The Jobo equipment is just one option. The expensive one. I use the old Unicolor print drum and motorized roller. You can do your film in trays, drums of various kinds, stainless hangers in deep tanks or you can make tubes out of ABS drain pipe and caps. I'm not familiar with the Jobo but you seem to have it right.

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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    From what I read here and there it seems that drums are the best money saving solution for chemical consumption, isn't it right?
    It seems they are the most confortable also as you can work in daylight.

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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    I hand-roll a Jobo 3006 on the $25 Jobo roller base. Besides the drum and base, all you need is a funnel. If you don't have a dark place to load the drum, you need a changing tent or bag.

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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    I use Jobo drums for all my film and I highly recommend the foot pump to remove the lid from the drum. I've read about other methods of prying off the lid, but I've never been able to do it without the pump. I also rotate the drums on an old Beseler motor base. This systems works perfectly.

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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    I just started with the Jobo 3010 (thanks Don) and a Beseler motor base (thanks Jacob) and it works great but I've been spending some time figuring out my new development times. I used to develop in trays and I need less time in the drum. I like the drum a lot but the big drawback is that if I want to process for different times I have to do separate runs in the drum.

    You might want to consider the 3010. It will do 10 sheets of 4x5 and even though it wasn't designed for 5x7 I've been told you can do 5 sheets of 5x7 at a time. So if you do a lot of 4x5 maybe the 3010 would be a better idea.

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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    There are a lot of advantages to using a drum, but drums can also be limiting since you can only develop a few sheets at a time (depending on the drum & format you use) I like my Unicolor processor---they go for a fraction of what a Jobo costs. As far a chemicals go, true it take less chemicals to soup film since the action of the drum will evenly cover the rotating film, BUT your volume of chemistry is only good for so many square inches of film before becoming exhausted. Also the aeration caused by the action of the processor might prematurely oxidize some chemicals. I get around this by using a generous "one shot" technique for chemicals and have never had a problem. This is for black and white work. I develop my 8x10 in the kitchen where it is closer to the cold beer(in the summer) and good red wine (in the winter)
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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    Quote Originally Posted by bardamu View Post
    From what I read here and there it seems that drums are the best money saving solution for chemical consumption, isn't it right?
    It seems they are the most confortable also as you can work in daylight.

    For colour yes. For B&W it can be a problem not a help. Check what your favorite dilution is and compare it against the max capacity for the drum.

    If your volume is small print drums [Like the Jobo 2800 type or others] will also do the job for far less money.

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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_3536 View Post
    If your volume is small print drums [Like the Jobo 2800 type or others] will also do the job for far less money.
    i ignore the difference between print drums and film developing drums.
    doesn't print drums request more dilution due to their shape?
    how many sheets at a time can a 2800 process? do I need reels?

    tnx

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    Re: Dumb question about film processing drums

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Marshall View Post
    I hand-roll a Jobo 3006 on the $25 Jobo roller base. Besides the drum and base, all you need is a funnel. If you don't have a dark place to load the drum, you need a changing tent or bag.
    that's the scenario I have in mind.
    my next doubt is: do one use the same drum for the developing bath, the stop bath and the fixing bath? if yes, how is this action performed? I've found no answer on http://www.jobousadarkroom.com/support.htm

    thanks
    andre

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