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    Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    Just placed my order for a Chamonix 45N-1 and Hugo was most helpful. Now only have to wait it out for six months!! Intend to use my Horseman 6x12 roll film back and of course Fuji Quickloads.

    I'm interested to hear from anyone who is using/intends to use the Horseman folding reflex viewer with the camera. Can it be done or does it need some kind of adapter?

    Saw where a right angled viewer identical to a Cambo T20(?) seemed to attach with some adapter but can't find any details on what I need to order. Photo was kindly supplied by Songyun in the thread on accessories.

    Can any of you lucky Chamonix owners help please?

    Regards

    Dave

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    Re: Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    The 45N-1 accessories (including the reflex viewer) aren't available yet, so we'll have to wait until Hugo gives us the info. I'd be surprised if the stock Horseman viewer would fit the 45N-1 without having a conversion plate made, but I suppose it's possible. You'd think there would be some viewing hood options that could take advantage of the graflock back, but I haven't found anything yet.

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    Re: Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    Well ..... the stock Horseman 6x9 roll holder fits perfectly so I would guess that the viewer does as well.

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    Re: Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    Ted-- How does the viewer attach?

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    Re: Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    No, I thought you wanted to know about the quality skiing at Chamonix? Never mind.

    Grin.
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    Re: Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave - Landscapes View Post
    Just placed my order for a Chamonix 45N-1 and Hugo was most helpful. Now only have to wait it out for six months!! Intend to use my Horseman 6x12 roll film back and of course Fuji Quickloads.

    I'm interested to hear from anyone who is using/intends to use the Horseman folding reflex viewer with the camera. Can it be done or does it need some kind of adapter?

    Saw where a right angled viewer identical to a Cambo T20(?) seemed to attach with some adapter but can't find any details on what I need to order. Photo was kindly supplied by Songyun in the thread on accessories.

    Can any of you lucky Chamonix owners help please?

    Regards

    Dave
    I think you need an adapter to mount the reflex viewer, so far I know that the adapter will fit cambo reflex viewer. I have seen ppl stick something on the back to mount the reflex viewer(See the attached photos), but I would prefer to the mounting adapter. Since you need to wait 6 months for the camera, I am sure that by that time the adapter will be available.

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    Re: Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    Thanks all for your comments.

    BarryS - you are right! I'll have to be patient and wait. And yes, I'm in the same boat as you and haven't found anything suitable without conversion plates or adapters needed. I'm disappointed I haven't inspired you into verse on this one!! You must be too busy playing with your Chamonix.

    Ted - the roll film backs should fit no problem because the sliders will hold them on. But the viewers - well that's a different story!

    Walter - could do with some snow down here at the moment. It's been very hot the last couple of weeks and we are only half way through summer.

    Songyun - thanks for the images. I don't like sticking something on the back either. Much better to have an adapter to fit properly.

    Oh well, I've got plenty of time to wait.

    Dave

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    Hi all !

    As i have few questions about the Chamonix 045N-1, i found appropriate not to start another topic and to post my questions within that well named thread.

    in the past week, i spend some time exploring the internet looking for exact technical details concerning the Chamonix 4x5.
    i found almost everything i wanted to know in order to compare and think about my final choice.

    However, i still have some interrogation marks, if i may :


    • My first question is about the use of a 90mm : does the standard bellow restrain the movements in any way with a standard lensboard ?
      What about a recessed lensboard ?

    • does the camera fold properly with a Rodenstock Grandagon-N 90mm F6,8 on it ? (i guess not but i would like some user to confirm or undermine this fact)

    • And does it fold with some lenses on it at all ?

    • Another detail i wasn’t able to find are the exact value of front and rear tilt and swing.



    Thanks to anyone answering my questions !

    See you online.

    Regards,

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    Re: Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    Quote Originally Posted by copy and paste View Post
    Hi all !

    As i have few questions about the Chamonix 045N-1, i found appropriate not to start another topic and to post my questions within that well named thread.

    in the past week, i spend some time exploring the internet looking for exact technical details concerning the Chamonix 4x5.
    i found almost everything i wanted to know in order to compare and think about my final choice.

    However, i still have some interrogation marks, if i may :


    • My first question is about the use of a 90mm : does the standard bellow restrain the movements in any way with a standard lensboard ?
      What about a recessed lensboard ?

    • does the camera fold properly with a Rodenstock Grandagon-N 90mm F6,8 on it ? (i guess not but i would like some user to confirm or undermine this fact)

    • And does it fold with some lenses on it at all ?

    • Another detail i wasn’t able to find are the exact value of front and rear tilt and swing.



    Thanks to anyone answering my questions !

    See you online.

    Regards,
    1. yes, ( I get at least 10mm rise and fall, I never used a recessed board, but you can wait for a bag bellow or universal bellow, by the time you get your camera, these accessories will be available)

    2. no

    3. no

    4. front limited by bellow, rear I didn't measure.

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    Re: Oh No Not another Chamonix question!

    Quote Originally Posted by copy and paste View Post
    Hi all !

    As i have few questions about the Chamonix 045N-1, i found appropriate not to start another topic and to post my questions within that well named thread.

    in the past week, i spend some time exploring the internet looking for exact technical details concerning the Chamonix 4x5.
    i found almost everything i wanted to know in order to compare and think about my final choice.

    However, i still have some interrogation marks, if i may :


    • My first question is about the use of a 90mm : does the standard bellow restrain the movements in any way with a standard lensboard ?
      What about a recessed lensboard ?

    • does the camera fold properly with a Rodenstock Grandagon-N 90mm F6,8 on it ? (i guess not but i would like some user to confirm or undermine this fact)

    • And does it fold with some lenses on it at all ?

    • Another detail i wasn’t able to find are the exact value of front and rear tilt and swing.



    Thanks to anyone answering my questions !

    See you online.

    Regards,
    I have a Schneider 47mm Super-Angulon mounted on a recessed lens board that focuses at infinity with the standard Chamonix 45N-1 bellows and there is some rise, fall and swing that is usable. The camera will not close with a mounted lens.

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