14in Commercial Ektar

[Flexnib]

Hello Group,
I am looking at the 14in. Commercial Ektar lens in barrel but not in shutter. I am thinking of buying it. What would a good price be for such a lens? It is a hugh lens around 3in across the face of the lens and in the barrle it stands about 4in.
thanks
Arthur

[Gene McCluney]

I have one in shutter and it is a mainstay of my commercial studio product work.

[Scott Davis]

As long as you have a big enough packard shutter to put behind it, I say go for it! The 14" commercial Ektar is a fantastic lens. I have a friend who sold a 355mm Kern Gold Dot Dagor and replaced it with a 14" Commercial Ektar because it had nicer Bokeh (out-of-focus rendering).

[Flexnib]

Thanks for the info. Any idea on what a fair price would be to offer?
thanks
Arthur

[Walter Calahan]

Just won a 12" Ilax Paragon f/4.5 barrel lens on eBay for $142.50.

There are 3 Schneider 14" with shutters on eBay ranging from $150 - 250.

[Jim Galli]

$165. A shutter adds about $250 plus a whole lot more folks who want it.

[Leonard Robertson]

I have an Ilex Acme #5 shutter marked on the face 14 3/4" f6.3, with no glass. I suppose it had Caltar or similar cells originally. Every time I see a barrel mount 14" Commercial Ektar, I wonder if those cells will screw into my shutter. Any opinions?

[Scott Davis]

Leonard - you'd have to measure both the cells and the shutter to be sure. It would probably end up needing an SK Grimes machining job anyway. I'm not sure if this was true for the #5 shutter, but in the #4, there are actually two sizes - the Kodak size and everyone else's size. The Kodak size is four or five mm bigger in diameter at the flange. I also have two different Kodak Ektar lenses in Ilex #5 shutters, and while the flanges are identical, the front barrel for the 300mm F4.5 Ektar is much larger than the front barrel for the 14" F6.3 Commercial Ektar, as is the rear barrel section. Thus it would stand to reason that the two lenses are unlikely to be directly compatible.

[Glenn Thoreson]

Len, my 14 in. Commercial Ektar is in a no. 5 Ilex. It should screw right in. There may, however, be a spacer ring necessary on the front, to get the right cell spacing. That appears to be the case with mine, though I can't be sure, as I don't have anoter shutter to compare it to.

[Leonard Robertson]

Thanks for the information. The only reason I thought the 14" Commercial might screw into any Ilex Acme #5 is there weren't too many lenses ever available in this shutter. But I do recall what Scott mentioned about Kodak using "different" Ilexes for some of the lenses they sold. I'll try to measure and post the thread size of my shutter tomorrow. The spacing of the cells occurred to me. I have vernier calipers to measure the overall length of the cells, and can hack out shim washers on my South Bend (after several tries).

Arthur - Remember a Packard shutter can be front-mounted:
http://www.electricedge.com/greymatt...s/00006060.htm There is a link over to a second page in front-mounting.