ERA 8x10 PAN

[Kurtay Photography]

Hi

Anyone has experience on Era 8x10 film. Just got them and tested @100ISO and developed it in Rodinal 1/100 at 20° in 28 minutes. Soaking it for a minute to start with. It came out very dense although my exposure was quiet right on indoor control lighting situtiation. I have done two of the same images one with sun lit the other under soft floresence lighting. Aggitating little as possible (read on a forum that it can dense very quick). Now the trick is that I have used a Patterson tank with the centre column in it. I don't think it got fogged when I look at the image the details are there but over all it looks really dark and dense all around. I tried to scan but the scanner picked up very little detail, although it is only a flat bed without transparency adaptor. I have scanned TRI-X400 with it and it was okay to see as a proof.

If anyone has an experience with this film I would appreciate it. Don't wish to try and burn too many of the sheets as they are worth every penny these days.

Thanks
OK!
P.S. Enclosed a sample scanned and Photoshoped version of the image. HERE

[David Karp]

Some recent discussion here:

http://www.largeformatphotography.in...&highlight=ERA

[Aaron van de Sande]

Just a guess but 30 minutes seems like a lot for that dilution. Maybe cut it to 20?

[Kurtay Photography]

David

Thanks for the link. I read it but it is all over the place. Lots of questions no answers. Nothing much about the Rodinal and the density issue.

Aaron, I based the developement time from digital truth-massive chart web site. According to them Rodinal 1/50 is 14 minutes so I double that amount. Is it too much I don't know.

Thanks
Mark

[Songyun]

Maybe you can try some ERA 4X5 first, it is cheaper.

Hi

Anyone has experience on Era 8x10 film. Just got them and tested @100ISO and developed it in Rodinal 1/100 at 20° in 28 minutes. Soaking it for a minute to start with. It came out very dense although my exposure was quiet right on indoor control lighting situtiation. I have done two of the same images one with sun lit the other under soft floresence lighting. Aggitating little as possible (read on a forum that it can dense very quick). Now the trick is that I have used a Patterson tank with the centre column in it. I don't think it got fogged when I look at the image the details are there but over all it looks really dark and dense all around. I tried to scan but the scanner picked up very little detail, although it is only a flat bed without transparency adaptor. I have scanned TRI-X400 with it and it was okay to see as a proof.

If anyone has an experience with this film I would appreciate it. Don't wish to try and burn too many of the sheets as they are worth every penny these days.

Thanks
OK!
P.S. Enclosed a sample scanned and Photoshoped version of the image. HERE

[Kurtay Photography]

Any other solid suggestions..?

[tim atherton]

I think your processing times/dilutions are way off (apart from the fact I've never liked Rodinal...!)

I'm waiting to test some in 4x5 when I have time - I'd try starting with their recomended times for D23 or D76 for now, or try the massive dev chart times for Pyrocat (which is whatI'll be trying out first)

[Paul Fitzgerald]

"Any other solid suggestions..?"

Good starting points are:

continuous rotation =
HC-110 D solution for 7 min.@70*F
PyroCat MC 1-1-100 for 9min.@70*F

semi stand=
PyroCat MC 1-1-200 for 45min.@70*F, three 15 min. cycles

for semi-stand the dilution is touchy, 1 to 150, 175, 190, 200, 225 will each give a different max.density (CI?) but approx. the same film speed. May be a new version of zone system manipulation, standard time and temp. with different dilutions. I'm lazy, I like easy.

[Kurtay Photography]

Aaron, I have tried a couple of 4x5 sheets of Era 100 (as suggested Songyun) in 25 minutes however it is still the same. Next time I will do 20minutes as you suggested. I have also tried the HC110 that seemed fine for the given time.

I appreciate everyone's suggestions, I would like to get a good result by using RODINAL (If poss). I didn't like Rodinal either (Tim) but it is convenient for the dilution of 1/50 or 1/100. I have a bottle to use, I haven't tried the PyroCat, yet. Paul thanks for the times on the HC-110 and PyroCat.

Afterall, all to do with experimenting with different sources and to share our knowledge.

Thanks

[Songyun]

I just use D76 for approximately 8mins as suggested on digitaltruth, never tried anything else, I will visit some Chinese forum, somebody there tried different solutions.

I say approximately, because I use a hp tank, it takes me 30 secs to fill the tank.

Aaron, I have tried a couple of 4x5 sheets of Era 100 (as suggested Songyun) in 25 minutes however it is still the same. Next time I will do 20minutes as you suggested. I have also tried the HC110 that seemed fine for the given time.

I appreciate everyone's suggestions, I would like to get a good result by using RODINAL (If poss). I didn't like Rodinal either (Tim) but it is convenient for the dilution of 1/50 or 1/100. I have a bottle to use, I haven't tried the PyroCat, yet. Paul thanks for the times on the HC-110 and PyroCat.

Afterall, all to do with experimenting with different sources and to share our knowledge.

Thanks