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    Re: Hung Up On “Default” Apertures?

    That is a really beautiful cactus garden, mostly hidden and IMO, not very appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew.saunders View Post
    Lots of cactus and flower photos based on two gardens that I frequented (Stanford's Arizona Garden, and the Elizabeth Gamble Garden in Palo Alto).

    Drew

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    Re: Hung Up On “Default” Apertures?

    F64 and be there...(for awhile...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernice Loui View Post
    That is a really beautiful cactus garden, mostly hidden and IMO, not very appreciated.

    Bernice
    253 images from 2008, I certainly appreciate it!
    https://flic.kr/s/aHsiVZiPU4
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/drew_saunders/

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    Re: Hung Up On “Default” Apertures?

    With respect to flat subjects that fill the frame, each lens has an optimum indicated in the manufacturer's literature. For my 8x10 lenses it is around 22 to 32, my Minox is 3.5, etc.

    With respect to 3D subjects the focusing equation of Hansma allows a rational aperture selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew.saunders View Post
    Things to do while in a boring zoom meeting where people can't tell that you're not looking at the laptop camera:

    I looked at the 36 LF images (all 4x5) that I uploaded to Flickr from 2022 (I think that's all I took, maybe one or two bad negatives that I wan't able to scan or chose not to upload), noted their apertures and here's the number of images by aperture, or for the Imagon images, what disk (those are the "H" values at the bottom):

    f/3.5: 1
    f/4: 1
    f/4.5: 3
    f/5.6: 4
    f/6.7: 2
    f/7: 1
    f/8: 9
    f/10: 2
    f/13: 1
    f/16: 6
    f/45: 1
    H5.8 or no disk: 4
    H7.7: 1

    So, it seems that, lately, I've been an "f/8 and be there" kind of LF photographer! Years ago, I was definitely in the "stop down to at least f/16" camp, but then wondered why should I just default to that? With only one image higher than f/16, it seems I have a definite pattern of "not anywhere near Group f/64."

    Now, I compose wide open, and only stop down as needed to get what I want in focus, after fiddling with any tilt that might help out (rarely swing). As you can guess, I have a few lenses that are faster than f/5.6 (165/3.5 Tessar, 180/4.5 Xenar, 210/4.5 Fujinar and 250/4.7 Fujinar, plus the 80/4.5 SSXL that I don't use at f/4.5), and have been exploring shallower depth of field images than what I used to shoot when I started back into LF in 2000 (after learning in college in 1988).

    Almost all of my LF images from 2022 were of close to moderate distances, no big landscapes. Lots of cactus and flower photos based on two gardens that I frequented (Stanford's Arizona Garden, and the Elizabeth Gamble Garden in Palo Alto).

    Drew
    I just started with LF and someone suggested I start with f22 and go from there. Since I mainly shoot landscapes, I'll go to f32 on occasion if I feel I need more DOF. I use movements as well usually. I;d like to see your Flickr pictures. What's the link? Tks.

    PS Here's one I took at f45 because I was shooting 4x5 with a 300mm so wanted the extra DOF for this telephoto lens.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/alankl...7715763486212/

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    Re: Hung Up On “Default” Apertures?

    Good choice, Alan. Front tilt would be limited with that image due to the foliage in the upper corners.

    Since I only contact print, I have a little more leeway, as contact printing gives one a little more effective depth of field than making significant enlargements (one can get away with a larger circle of confusion when contacting -- if I am not confused, myself). So I am not hung up on f16 or f22 at all, although glad to use them when I can.

    With the Fuji W 360/6.3 on the 11x14, it takes f22 or smaller aperture to get the corners sharp. F16 might work if I am careful.
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    Re: Hung Up On “Default” Apertures?

    Single vanishing point composition:
    https://ranartblog.com/blogarticle19.html

    Tiny bit of tilt ~might~ help... might..

    Really a point/area of focus image then use a small exposure aperture.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Klein View Post
    PS Here's one I took at f45 because I was shooting 4x5 with a 300mm so wanted the extra DOF for this telephoto lens.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/alankl...7715763486212/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Klein View Post
    I'd like to see your Flickr pictures. What's the link? Tks.
    My Flickr link is in my signature, but I noticed that Tapatalk doesn't show signatures, so:
    https://flickr.com/photos/drew_saunders/albums
    The two gardens I reference are at https://flic.kr/s/aHsiYPCsoP and https://flic.kr/s/aHsiVZiPU4
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/drew_saunders/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post
    Good choice, Alan. Front tilt would be limited with that image due to the foliage in the upper corners.

    Since I only contact print, I have a little more leeway, as contact printing gives one a little more effective depth of field than making significant enlargements (one can get away with a larger circle of confusion when contacting -- if I am not confused, myself). So I am not hung up on f16 or f22 at all, although glad to use them when I can.

    With the Fuji W 360/6.3 on the 11x14, it takes f22 or smaller aperture to get the corners sharp. F16 might work if I am careful.
    Actually the photo is not as sharp as I wanted. Maybe I could have gone to f/45 or it could be something else.

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    Re: Hung Up On “Default” Apertures?

    Quote Originally Posted by drew.saunders View Post
    My Flickr link is in my signature, but I noticed that Tapatalk doesn't show signatures, so:
    https://flickr.com/photos/drew_saunders/albums
    The two gardens I reference are at https://flic.kr/s/aHsiYPCsoP and https://flic.kr/s/aHsiVZiPU4
    I missed the link. Very nice portfolios.

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