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    Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    Hello -
    I am struggling to understand what might be going on with my developing, and am looking for suggestions on what I should be looking for to solve the issue. The image was taken using Fomapan 100 classic. This image was using a Crown Graphic with a 150mm 6.3 lens at f/32 for 1/15 second.

    Developed with Cinestill DF96 monobath at the recommended 80 degrees F. The developer is unexpired and had just 3 35mm rolls and 2 4x5 sheeds developed in it previously. It has been open about 2 weeks and kept at room temperature. I developed using a Patterson tank with MOD54 sheet holder and developed six sheets. Same issue on each sheet. I pre-rinsed with 80-degree F tap water until the water ran clear, then developed for 4 minutes 15 seconds, rinsed for 10 minutes. I then did a final rinse with photo flow (about 3 drops per 2 Liters of 80-degree water. I used tap water that is not considered hard water (Tacoma area water from local river watershed). This has also happened in a Stearman tank.

    Thank you for your ideas.
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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    My guess is that Cinestill monobath isn't a good match for this film.

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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    Thank you - I'm planning on trying a more standard approach with D76 on the next images. I wondered the same as you suggested. - K

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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    You might try fixing the film. As in, worth a shot, not much to lose.
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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by nolindan View Post
    You might try fixing the film. As in, worth a shot, not much to lose.
    I'll give that a go. Thank you.

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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    It looks like an agitation issue, but I'm sure that the use of a monobath has exacerbated the problem. Rest assured that you can get pretty nice and even development with the mod54 and fomapan 100 using a normal developer and fixer.
    I did use to have issues with unevenness along the edges of the film where the mod54's "claws" hold the film. I never really solved that issue because I moved to Jobo and tray processing fairly soon.

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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    the cinestill monobath is very very very temperamental.

    Some films need special treatment to get it right, but in the long run its best and cheapest to use a real film developer.

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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    i have seen a lot of recent posts over the last few months in many different places with development issues and monobaths. hmmm, is there a correlation here? never really understood why people use it. is there something that it does that other normal development and fix don't/can't do besides saving a few minutes?

    john

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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    warm chemicals and processing for less than 5 minutes can always lead to problems. I've never used cinestil but hear good things about it, is there any way you can use it at a colder temperature and develop for a longer length of time? good luck!

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    Re: Help - 4x5 Negative Developing Issue - Looking for Ideas

    Give up the monolith developer, use a traditional developer with a development time of no less than 6-7 minutes..
    Development tank used and agitation are other factors..

    Why f32 as the exposure aperture?

    Bernice

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