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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    When I was college age, RISD was highly regarded on the east coast
    https://www.risd.edu/student-financi...stimated-costs

    You're looking at $79k now and that includes mandatory health insurance; there is obviously no interest in trying to keep things affordable.

    Even the elite and more practical Bowdoin is less at $78k
    https://www.bowdoin.edu/admissions/c...aid/index.html
    and they have an average financial aid package of $62k because of their multibillion dollar endowment.

    If you're ever wandering through Maine and need some indoors time, Bowdoin and Bates both have EXCELLENT art museums open to the public.

    (I'm a college dropout from WPI, an engineering school and my two years of college was invaluable and practical. I got excellent financial aid so it was cheaper than UMaine, and I paid off the two years of loans within a year)

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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    That's a very interesting article. It certainly is a lovely building, proof that mismanagement can spoil anything, i guess.
    I taught at the college level for 18 years and left with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
    Most likely my own fault though.

    Apprenticeships seem to be the way to go these days
    Of course there is no guarantee of getting a decent one.

    Too many students (my observation) feel they are owed an education
    Maybe because the tuition is obscene.

    I worked through college, lived at home and graduated with no loans taken
    Of course tuition was a lot less back then in the Pleistocene.
    "I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority"---EB White

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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by John Kasaian View Post
    That's a very interesting article. It certainly is a lovely building, proof that mismanagement can spoil anything, i guess.
    I taught at the college level for 18 years and left with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
    Most likely my own fault though.

    Apprenticeships seem to be the way to go these days
    Of course there is no guarantee of getting a decent one.

    Too many students (my observation) feel they are owed an education
    Maybe because the tuition is obscene.

    I worked through college, lived at home and graduated with no loans taken
    Of course tuition was a lot less back then in the Pleistocene.
    Apprenticeships are hard to come by. Internships usually pay nothing, most photographers want assistants with a modicum of training, at least Community College level.

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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    My first college, State Normal Illinois I worked as student janitor nights, 1969

    My pay was $1.55 hour plus night pay, so $1.70. Far less than my High School era pay

    However that pittance was enough to pay tuition, books and campus dorm with 3 squares

    and Beer!



    Quote Originally Posted by John Kasaian View Post
    That's a very interesting article. It certainly is a lovely building, proof that mismanagement can spoil anything, i guess.
    I taught at the college level for 18 years and left with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
    Most likely my own fault though.

    Apprenticeships seem to be the way to go these days
    Of course there is no guarantee of getting a decent one.

    Too many students (my observation) feel they are owed an education
    Maybe because the tuition is obscene.

    I worked through college, lived at home and graduated with no loans taken
    Of course tuition was a lot less back then in the Pleistocene.
    Tin Can

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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    Inflation calculator says that's $13.72 today. When I was a student worker we were not allowed anything over minimum - $5.15 at the time ($7.81 with inflation). Current student worker rates here are $11 and up depending on job and experience.
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    I quit many jobs, often rehired

    I quit for vacation road trips

    I found after 6 weeks I could go home and work

    As you know I was put to pasture 2008, really pissed me off

    now Glad!
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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    'Happening' ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happening

    SAIC Retro Beggar https://www.saic.edu/

    https://sites.saic.edu/artauction/

    I know a few of the exhibitors and faculty

    Tania Bruguera was in my cohort

    She is ex Cuban Rad

    I advertised a 'Happening' in my tiny town, 1967

    Nobody came

    LOL
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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by John Kasaian View Post
    That's a very interesting article. It certainly is a lovely building, proof that mismanagement can spoil anything, i guess.
    I taught at the college level for 18 years and left with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
    Most likely my own fault though.

    Apprenticeships seem to be the way to go these days
    Of course there is no guarantee of getting a decent one.

    Too many students (my observation) feel they are owed an education
    Maybe because the tuition is obscene.

    I worked through college, lived at home and graduated with no loans taken
    Of course tuition was a lot less back then in the Pleistocene.
    Back then, there were no government loans to drive up tuition costs. Colleges had to compete for broke students. In its effort to help everyone get a college education, the government has indebted half the younger population as the money rolls in for administrators, professors, and others working at universities who push college on people who frankly should take up a trade. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    The bar has been well and truly lowered. It's all about the money.

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    Re: The "Art" School is Dead

    It is about money. See: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...cation-funding I would think that less and less public money goes to public colleges - from reading this report. As far as private colleges and art schools where their money comes from, who knows?

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