How Many Are Truly Traditional or Latest Film Followers

**Tin Can** · 27-Mar-2022, 03:45

Ilford Ortho Plus film, Arista Ortho and all analog X-Ray films

I know our oldest and most esteemed member, Jim Noel shoots only this type of film in huge quantifiers

Jim has posted that many times

https://www.largeformatphotography.i...lus-film/page2

I don't care about color film since Kodachrome disappeared

DIGI makes very good color, approved by nearly ALL humans

Non humans please speak up

I shoot X-Ray for frugality, pleasure and reenactment

**Vaughn** · 27-Mar-2022, 08:20

Originally Posted by John Kasaian

Is this a they don't make 'em like they used to thread?

No, I still make carbons like they use to...

**Drew Wiley** · 28-Mar-2022, 13:33

Digi color is crippled. Might look OK on a screen - but once ya try to print it, an awful lot gets lost in translation, especially with inkjet. Digit was the one who wasn't fully human; he was a caged Gorilla who communicated in sign language. His coloring book wasn't all that impressive either.

But I immediately detected some hypocrisy when Ortho plus was mentioned (a very recent film), Aristo Ortho Litho, another relatively recent line, now in its fourth generational tweak, quite a bit different from old Agfa or Kodak lith films, but equally wretched for con-tone imagery, if that is what qualifies something as a truly traditional. Yep, streaks and smudges and fingerprints have graced photos ever since the beginning, if that is what one if after. I know how to achieve that with any film, even the latest! Just don't want to.

**Duolab123** · 28-Mar-2022, 14:19

I made some RA4 prints yesterday. Slightly cropped Ektar, Hasselblad negative, approximately 5X enlargement. Large negatives (or small prints), are required to make nice analog prints, that's for sure and certain. I moved my color processors into my utility room, I've got to take a bit of a break from color. We are in brown season for another few weeks here. I need to wait for color and 4x5 negatives before playing with RA4. Should be a month.
Meanwhile I have a couple boxes of Ilford warmtone paper to get to.

**Drew Wiley** · 28-Mar-2022, 15:32

I don't know if RA4 printing is classified as "traditional" or not. By the parameters of this thread, I guess it all depends if Neanderthals had full color vision or not. They apparently did respond to the color of red ochre. But so do bulls. I have no idea when my RA4 paper is going to get here. Been waiting six months so far.

**Tin Can** · 28-Mar-2022, 15:34

I guess you didn't read I miss Kodachrome

Seen the fun movie twice

**Drew Wiley** · 28-Mar-2022, 15:56

We ALL miss Kodachrome! But it went extinct in sheet film version long before my own experience with it, which thankfully, was mostly the 25 speed version, not 64.

**Tin Can** · 5-Apr-2022, 04:56

1895 cycle camera I have several Poco VGC

https://www.google.com/search?q=1895...F_enUS850US850

Originally Posted by ChrisLongyne

I'd like to know more about these Cycle Cameras. My Deardorff and Chamonix 810s make for great cycling cameras in my daily use so I can't complain, but it sounds interesting.

**Tin Can** · 5-Apr-2022, 06:04

http://www.historiccamera.com/cgi-bi...eet&app_id=510

The POCO survive well if stored closed in OE case. The leather case will self destruct yet save the contents

I have perfect red Russian bellows and darn good leather on top of amazing woodwork

Shutters can be a problem as every person for 127 years tested that

Many ways around that problem, good lens glass is nice to have