Well, hardly a wide angle candidate, but since it somehow came up, the Fuji 600 C can do excellent things with 8x10 film. Good optics and excellent color correction, and "C" standing for compact makes it practical to tote around. No, it's not an apo superstar like my 760 Apo Nikkor; but that thing is a cumbersome draft horse.
Further to post #48, I'm attaching a new version of the Chart with only the shortlisted lenses; that is, the Schneider XL 110mm for 4x5, and the four 8x10 lenses in order of preference.
Notes to the Chart's Column Headings:
Lens Street Price New: As noted in post #1, I've taken the street prices for lenses from this forum's lens comparison charts. I see those prices as a very rough guide. I'm aware of one instance where the price in the comparison charts is significantly higher than the actual street price.
Centre Filter Street Price New: Note that there are significant price differences for the centre filters for the 8x10 lenses. These prices are also from the lens comparison charts.
Last edited by r.e.; 23-Oct-2021 at 05:52.
A little outside your range but a Fujinon 180mm "inside lettering" will cover 8x10" nicely and is a great focal length in both formats in my opinion.
Thanks. For my taste, 120mm is too wide for 8x10. See posts #19 and #20.Originally Posted by Tin Can
Thanks, this lens was mentioned earlier in the thread. I don't need a 180mm lens for 4x5, and 180mm is longer than I want for 8x10. The Schneider Super-Angulon, at 165mm, is at the outer limit of my 8x10 shortlist (posts #48 and #52).
That said, the Fujinon lens is quite a bit less expensive than the lenses on my list. However, it raises some of the issues discussed in post #42. For me, I think that purchasing this lens for 8x10 would lead to impatience, and very limited use, if any, or replacement.
Some details on this lens for readers down the road...
Fujinon W f/5.6 180mm, lens description inside rather than outside the lens rim:
Lens: single coated, made before 1979
Shutter, depending on copy: Copal S, Seiko, Copal 1
Angle of coverage: 80°
Image circle @ f/22: 305mm (just covers 8x10, no movements)
Filter thread: 58mm
As I understand it, Fujinon W f/5.6 180mm lenses made in 1979 or later have the lens description outside the rim, are multi-coated and have a smaller image circle that doesn't cover 8x10.
The foregoing information comes from various internet sources and should be confirmed by anyone interested in this lens.
Last edited by r.e.; 23-Oct-2021 at 07:02.
Image circle of 312mm is needed for 8x10, image circle of 305mm is a tad small.
Much depends on how the 8x10 film image is used. For contact prints, lens performance is not demanding if at all. This is why pressing the lens beyond it's designed image circle can be ok. If the 8x10 film image is projection enlarged 10x, lens/camera/8x10 image making system performance Will be significant.
This Fujinon page was previously posted noting that generation of Fujinon Plasmats offered 80 degree angle of view at f22.
Bernice
The Fujinon-W 180mm might have light in the corners, but at 1:10 to infinity there is missing an inch of sharpness in the corners.
I sold both of my Fujinon-W 180mm with text on the inner ring due to this.
One of them was lent out to a photographer to document a wall painting before it was gone.
He had his reasons not use a 150mm Nikkor-SW offered from a friend.
But the Fujinon was not sharp and the 8x10" Provia lacked in all corners.
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Thanks for sharing this. Not surprised, there remains a marketing advantage to over sell lens image circle as this remains one of the deciding factors for many LF folks. For some loss of optical performance at the lens image circle edges is more than acceptable, for some never acceptable.
This is the reality of lens and optics as the sheet film sizes goes up. Seems these days as more and more view camera folks endeavor into contact printing using alternative image making processes, rendering lens performance less a factor.
All goes back to image goals that drive lens choice and what camera/system is required to support these needs.
Bernice
Bernice's post above is her constant and thoughtful refrain, which can always bear repeating.
I'd add "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."
Buy a lens and go make pictures. If, after a few months and some sheets of film, you don't like that lens, then trade it in on another. In the meantime, you'll have made some new photographs... and if they turn out well, no one (except you) will know that the lens didn't meet your specs; they'll just see a good photograph.
Agree with all
Most want something, that others may not
I am constantly intentionally vignetting to add Dark Shadows
Tin Can
If you buy a 110 XL make sure you get one without haze or whatever. Mine is very late production (which may or may not matter although I haven’t had any issues) but some people had problems with the 80 and I think the 110 also. Schneider sort of seemed to acknowledge the issue (circa the early 2000s I think?) but at some point stopped fixing them for people, at least without charging a lot of money. I don’t know if the original issue was addressed in later production.
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