JOBO ATL 3 or a CPP

[angusparker]

This is the problem for the Dev.a - 3 sheets of 4x5 and 1 sheet of 8x10 at a time - way too much time even if automated if these are anything other than occasional formats. For 120 it's a serious contender.

[sperdynamite]

Wise words. I think E6 and C41 don't make a lot of sense to do oneself - too likely to make a mistake, have old chemicals, have the machine breakdown etc. B&W is a different matter - you don't really need a Jobo for it but it sure makes developing film less messy and more repeatable. I develop all ULF (above 8x10) in trays which works well enough - it really doesn't make sense to use a Jobo tube because you can only develop one or two sheets at a time and the chances of getting a rub mark from a rib in the tube is not zero. 8x10 makes more sense at 5 at a time with the Expert Drum and 4x5 is the real sweet spot with 10 sheets at a time. If Jobo could find a way to do 10 sheets of 8x10 at a time I would be in heaven!

Yeah, I mean it's self serving but basically I agree. C41 and E6 are best done at a lab because we're maintaining our chemicals using control strips. It's just also not that expensive to do 'process only'. I have to charge more than shops that have a dip and dunk set up. Even running 2 Jobo ATL machines with multiple expert drums runs into the bottleneck of dryer space. Eventually we're going to get a Colenta roller transport machine for C41. The new ones are pretty amazing and can do dry to dry from 35mm to 8x10.

[koh303]

This is the problem for the Dev.a - 3 sheets of 4x5 and 1 sheet of 8x10 at a time - way too much time even if automated if these are anything other than occasional formats. For 120 it's a serious contender.

Actually, you can process up to two sheets of 8X10 on the Dev.a at a time and up to 8 sheets of 4X5 at a time. It is possible that a 3 sheet 8X10 reel might be in the cards.... with enough demand?

[Tomsmac]

So, what did you decide? After a very disappointed eBay purchase of a used CPE-2 processor I just purchased a brand new CPE-3 from Catlabs and eagerly wait it’s delivery.

I owned the ATL-2000 and I’m glad that I no longer do as I’m now hearing a lot about them now reaching their end-of-life. And there’s a strong possibility that when something goes wrong and you can’t fix it yourself you need to ship the entire unit and that’s via freigh. Here’s a quick clip of what was mine,