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    Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Does it cover 4x5 @ f/5.6 with some - yet, acceptable - vignetting? I shoot only BW.

    Tnx!

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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Hello from France!

    The answers to your questions can be found in the official technilcal brochure of the SS-XL-110, it can be dowloaded from here

    Super-Symmar XL Aspheric 5.6/110mm (PDF)
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161..._xl_56_110.pdf

    As you can see, at full aperture N=5.6, the SS-XL 110 covers an image diameter equalt to 70% of (2x142) mm at infinity, i.e. about 200 mm of image circle, with more than 20% of relative illumination and more than 15% of contrast on the MTF curve.


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    Other SS-XL brochures found at the same location
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161..._format_lenses

    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161...per-symmar_xl/

    Schneider Kreuznach Super Symmar XL lenses

    Super-Symmar XL Brochure (PDF)
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161...f/brochure.pdf

    Info Chart - some basic lens data (HTML)
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161...r_xl/chart.htm

    Data Sheets - more technical information:

    Super-Symmar XL Aspheric 4.5/80mm (PDF)
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161...r_xl_45_80.pdf

    Super-Symmar XL Aspheric 5.6/110mm (PDF)
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161..._xl_56_110.pdf

    Super-Symmar XL Aspheric 5.6/150mm (PDF)
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161..._xl_56_150.pdf

    Super-Symmar XL Aspheric 5.6/210mm (PDF)
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161..._xl_56_210.pdf

    Explanation of symbols and nomenclature (HTML)
    http://web.archive.org/web/200603161...menclature.htm

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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Hi Emmanuel,

    many thanks for the great links!

    Cheers

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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Image circle and light fall off is mostly a non-issue on 4x5 at any aperture. Having used the 110mm SSXL on 4x5 to 8x10 (does NOT cover 8x10) since the late 90's when Schneider introduced this lens, it easily meets the image demands for 4x5. It has a snappy, contrastly personality image personality.


    Bernice


    Quote Originally Posted by Marco Annaratone View Post
    Does it cover 4x5 @ f/5.6 with some - yet, acceptable - vignetting? I shoot only BW.

    Tnx!

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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernice Loui View Post
    It has a snappy, contrastly personality image personality.
    Mine can be a little brusque, too, but it always apologizes in the end.

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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Heh,, its been a wonderful long term relationship with this 110mm f5.6 SSXL
    and the 150mm f5.6 SSXL too..


    Bernice


    Quote Originally Posted by Heroique View Post
    Mine can be a little brusque, too, but it always apologizes in the end.

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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    The 110 at wide open is not at its sharpest - particularly in the corners.

    Fabulous at f/22.

    Martin

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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Aislabie View Post

    Fabulous at f/22.

    Martin
    And at f/22 it will cover 4x10, but needs a center filter to even things out.
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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Aislabie View Post
    The 110 at wide open is not at its sharpest - particularly in the corners.

    Fabulous at f/22.

    Martin
    The corners of a 4x5, you mean?

    I must add that I have the both the 110mm XL and the 150mm XL. The reason I asked is that my 110mm XL is right now 800 miles away so I have no way to check in person whether it delivers objectionable vignetting or not @ f/5.6 on a 4x5. Both are very fine lenses, I used the 110mm on 8x10 color slides as well, without movements of course.

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    Re: Coverage of Schneider Super-Symmar 110mm f5.6 XL at full aperture

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco Annaratone View Post
    The corners of a 4x5, you mean?

    I must add that I have the both the 110mm XL and the 150mm XL. The reason I asked is that my 110mm XL is right now 800 miles away so I have no way to check in person whether it delivers objectionable vignetting or not @ f/5.6 on a 4x5. Both are very fine lenses, I used the 110mm on 8x10 color slides as well, without movements of course.
    If you'd read the charts that Prof. (retired) Dr. Bigler, who I greet in passing, directed you to in post #2 above, you'd have seen that with the lens unshifted at f/5.6 at infinity the corners of 4x5 are around 1.1 stop down from the center. This is consistent with cos^4. In other words, with this lens mechanical vignetting is not a problem.

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