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Thread: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

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    My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    I was loading my recently dried 8x10 negatives into the negative preservers and I was having a little fit. Half of them were backwards. WTF?
    Turns out I got a batch of Shanghai 8x10 that had the notch at BOTH CORNERS.

    So, yes I not only loaded 3 of the sheets base-side-up, I also processed them in a Jobo 3005 EXPERT drum EMULSION OUT!

    The amazing thing is that, other than the images being backward, the negatives are flawless. The exposure is fine and there was complete development of the image!

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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    ...The exposure is fine and there was complete development of the image!
    How could that be? Is there is no antihalation coating or were they overexposed (vis a vis the "correct" side of the film)?

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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    Yet another reason for me to avoid unfamiliar brands of film. You get what you pay for.

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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    ...Turns out I got a batch of Shanghai 8x10 that had the notch at BOTH CORNERS...

    Now that's a first I think.
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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    ...You get what you pay for.
    Not necessarily. But one always pays for what one gets.

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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    Well, there are obviously a lot of people willing to make the same blatant mistake twice .... just speaking in principle, of course.

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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    How many are going to tolerate this abuse, shrug it off, and move on under the guise of view camera hobby $ spent?

    Do not remember having any such problem with Agfa, Fuji, Kodak or similar film brands.. ever.

    Looking at this short term, cost of film hassle and all that. Longer term and broader view of what happened.. Your time spent on this is not replaceable or can ever be recovered. Your time IS the most valuable resource available to you.

    Making any image with a view camera is no small effort and demands significant resources to do this on any level. Or why film cost should be the very low on the priority list of the cost of making LF images.

    The initial motivation to try this film might be cost per sheet, curiosity of what this film could be or ?

    Good to see stuff put out into public view, question now becomes what will the manufacture do about this catastrophic failure of their product?


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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernice Loui View Post
    question now becomes what will the manufacture do about this catastrophic failure of their product?


    Bernice

    Can it be called a "catastrophic failure" if his images were perfect?


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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    Film double notched, image reversed, this ok?

    Put some perspective on this.

    Client books a studio shoot with models, props, hired crew to do a product promo image. Production cost alone is $1,000 per hour to cover the cost of models, props, crew and all. Foto shoot is done, film processed to discover the film has two set of notches, and the image is reversed.. There IS not digitizing, NO Foto-Shop or mean to fix the image produced..

    What will you tell your client, what happens to your reputation, and all related to that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Two23 View Post
    Can it be called a "catastrophic failure" if his images were perfect?


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    Re: My negatives are backwards....Shanghai 8x10 Film.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernice Loui View Post
    Film double notched, image reversed, this ok?

    Put some perspective on this.

    Client books a studio shoot with models, props, hired crew to do a product promo image. Production cost alone is $1,000 per hour to cover the cost of models, props, crew and all. Foto shoot is done, film processed to discover the film has two set of notches, and the image is reversed.. There IS not digitizing, NO Foto-Shop or mean to fix the image produced..

    What will you tell your client, what happens to your reputation, and all related to that?


    Bernice

    If I were doing something where I charged $1,000/hr. I would almost certainly be shooting digital. The Shanghai film is for people who are just out having fun and want to cut costs. If something screws up it's not a big deal.


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