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    Re: Making J Lane Positive Plates? (Famous Format Monobath?)

    I just recently received some of the plates for my 4x5 camera. Maybe this has been brought up before but, could you contact print one plate to another and get a positive? Could a contact print from a normal negative be made on a plate end up in a positive? Just wondering...
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    Re: Making J Lane Positive Plates? (Famous Format Monobath?)

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by dabsond View Post
    I just recently received some of the plates for my 4x5 camera. Maybe this has been brought up before but, could you contact one plate to another and get a positive? Could a contact print from a normal negative be made on a plate end up in a positive? Just wondering...
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    Re: Making J Lane Positive Plates? (Famous Format Monobath?)

    A still existing problem, common to many photographers since the beginning of image making is intentional misdirection

    Anecdotally, I have been researching photographers and their studios logos from the time when this was the state of the art. Many of them are quite similar to the practicing magicians of the day. So it would make sense to me that each guy would keep his recipe and techniques secret. I would imagine that going to sit in front of a guy with a big box who could then hand you something that was not a painting but a realistic representation of reality. That probably was magic to a lot of people. I still see the same magic I saw as a little kid watching images develop before my very eyes in a tray. Good stuff.

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    Re: Making J Lane Positive Plates? (Famous Format Monobath?)

    Wall laments in his book on emulsion-making the commercialization of dry plates and the end of the era of amateur dry plate makers freely exchanging information. R&D moved behind closed doors with the commercialization of dry plate making.
    Newly made large format dry plates available! Look:
    https://www.pictoriographica.com

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    Re: Making J Lane Positive Plates? (Famous Format Monobath?)

    Interesting. So it was more of a “Trade secret” type of thing? As an aside, I was at Freestyle today. They have a whole display case on the wall dedicated to J. Lane Plates, holders, and accessories for dry plate photography. They are in the process of moving down the street, so the store is kind of pared down a bit. They have been in the same location on Sunset Boulevard for over 50 years.

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    Re: Making J Lane Positive Plates? (Famous Format Monobath?)

    That’s awesome. I haven’t been out there on travel close enough to stop in, but that’s cool.

    Yes, basically... with commercialization and competition, developments and improvements accelerated (imagine having a fully equipped lab and team of dedicated scientists solving your photography problems vs just you in a basement), but it understandably had to happen behind closed doors. My day job company doesn’t share my cutting-edge optical designs with its competitors, nor are they publicly available for similar obvious reasons.

    But..if you know how to look, you can glean bits and pieces, and when a bit of technology was no longer relevant to competition (gold sensitization, for example), then the research would be published.

    So really what Wall lamented was years- and decades-delay in openly sharing advances in dry plate and film making.
    Newly made large format dry plates available! Look:
    https://www.pictoriographica.com

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    Re: Making J Lane Positive Plates? (Famous Format Monobath?)

    It’s great that you share your knowledge freely. Thank you. It inspires me to keep learning.

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