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    Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    Hello everyone,

    I am not sure if this has been asked here before (and in such case - please accept my apologies).

    I'm pretty new to large format photography and I'm looking for the safest way possible to shoot overhead (90 degree angle) with a Sinar F1. I've been trying to tilt-shift the Sinar but it makes it really difficult to focus, and it's not really what I'm looking for.
    An extremely sturdy tripod + boom perhaps? Any recommendations are welcome.

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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    If you want to point the camera straight up, get a tripod that will point it straight up. Then get a reflex finder or viewer. To learn more about reflex finders, see http://www.bnphoto.org/bnphoto/LFN/ReflexFinders1.html

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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    Sinar has a mirror that mounts on rail, and angles 45° down...

    Your best bet...

    Steve K

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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    Depends on how high above your subject you need to be. A boom arm and counterweight could work but if it is too long or not sturdy enough it could introduce vibrations that will take forever to stop. A shorter arm on a tripod works well for distances less than 6 ft or so. You might look into making something with metal rails or pipe, too.

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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pieter View Post
    Depends on how high above your subject you need to be. A boom arm and counterweight could work but if it is too long or not sturdy enough it could introduce vibrations that will take forever to stop. A shorter arm on a tripod works well for distances less than 6 ft or so. You might look into making something with metal rails or pipe, too.

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    Thank you, what tripod is this? It doesn't need to be that high but this is pretty much what I've been looking for.

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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    I tried 4 copy stands, some here http://www.glennview.com/copy.htm I even made a copy of Glenn's MP3 mods

    In the end I found an old Arkay Studio stand bought for $100 worked best for me

    Lighting is a big issue, as is precise adjustment of all elements

    I spend a lot of time going up and down my 8' ladder, adjusting everything

    A big enlarger may work, but they have big limitations
    Tin Can

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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    I built this Sinar Norma Copy Stand, which uses all original Norma parts. It works well enough that i decided to dedicate a Norma to be permanently set up just for this use.
    A Norma Reflex Attachment completes the outfit. All works very well and is getting use.

    Norma #4 Copy Stand Finally Together by Nokton48, on Flickr
    Flikr Photos Here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/18134483@N04/

    “The secret of getting ahead is getting started.”
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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    Several years ago I wanted to do some table top set ps with a vertical or overhead view.

    It was awkward to arrange with my gear and in our dining room.

    I went on th-bay and got a Spiratone mriior attachment. Screwed right onto the filter threads of my lens.

    Worked well enough.
    Drew Bedo
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    There are only three types of mounting flanges; too big, too small and wrong thread!

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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    I used mine yesterday
    Tin Can

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    Re: Shooting overhead (90 degree angle) with Sinar F1?

    More specific info needed.

    90 degrees could mean copy stand. This could be easily accompanied in a number of ways.

    If 90 degrees on the horizontal plane or similar, Sinar made three mirrors that fit into the standard frame from 4x5 to 5x7. One is a front surface mirror that fits into the 4x5 frame. This mirror allows images reflected into the lens to be recorded.

    The other two are semi reflective, one fits the 4x5 frame, the other fits the 5x7 frame. These semi reflective mirrors allow composite reflected images to be recorded.

    See page 16 in this Sinar catalog.
    https://www.pacificrimcamera.com/rl/00848/00848.pdf


    Bernice

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