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Thread: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    Here is a list of 210mm 8x10 lenses I put together some years ago:

    Small/light lenses
    Graphic Kowa f/9 (Copal 1, single-coated, reportedly around 380mm IC)
    Computar f/9 (Copal 1, single-coated, reportedly around 460mm IC)
    G-Claron f/9 (Copal 1, single-coated, covers 8x10 with very limited movements when stopped down)

    Medium sized lenses
    Fuji W f/5.6 (Copal 1, single-coated, 352mm IC)
    Schneider Angulon f/6.8 (Copal 3, single-coated, 382mm IC)
    Rodenstock APO Sironar W f/5.6 (Copal 3, multi-coated, 352mm IC)

    Large lenses
    Schneider Super Symmar HM f/5.6 (Copal 3, multi-coated, 356mm IC)
    Schneider Super Angulon f/8 (Copal 3, single/multi-coated, 500mm IC)
    Schneider Super Symmar XL f/5.6 (Copal 3, multi-coated, 500mm IC)
    Rodenstock Grandagon/Grandagon-N 200mm f/6.8 (Copal 3, single/multi-coated, 495mm IC)

    Here are my thoughts from a more recent post:

    The sharpest option IMO is the Sironar W, but I found the coverage at times restricting. I initially tried a small lens/big lens dual solution, using a 210 APO Symmar L (barely covers) for backpacking and either a 210 SSXL (light falloff could be bothersome when significant movements are applied) or 200 Grandagon (less falloff but extremely bulky/heavy) for short hikes. I then explored lightweight f/9 solutions for field use, and compared a 210 Graphic Kowa and 210 Computar. I liked the optical performance of the Computar better than the Kowa, and it had plenty of usable coverage if one could tame the extreme amount of light falloff when significant movements are applied (if I had continued using 8x10 format I would have explored finding a center filter for it). The Computar also exhibited more field curvature than the huge, better corrected wide angle designs (SSXL, Grandagon), meaning I potentially had to stop down more to get everything sharp. Still, if I had to pick a universal 210mm 8x10 lens for field use, I'd go with either the Sironar W (if the coverage is adequate) or the Computar as the best blend of performance and size.

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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    For 210mm on 8x10 I use a Wollensak 210mm f6.8 Graphic Raptar Wide Field Lens. Plenty of movements for landscape work, small, light, cheap. barrel. Someone wrote almost 20 years ago: "They are a prefect fit into the Alphax shutter that normaly comes with a 75 mm ossilisxope lens."
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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    200_ism mm lens for 8x10 has come up often. Do a search on LFF to see the numerous previous discussions.

    Essentially, it comes down to cost -vs- lens size -vs- what your specific print image needs are. At this point in time there are few low cost-small size-excellent optical performance lenses for 8x10 as they ALL have trade offs.

    Best 200mm lens I've used in the past for 8x10, 200mm f6.8 Grandagon it is HUGE and Expensive with excellent performance.

    Not just the lens, what lens can your 8x10 camera be comfortable with?

    ~What are your print image goals?.... And another plug for 5x7_13x18cm, there are PLENTY of wide angle lenses that easily cover that sheet film format and there are very real advantages to that smaller film format over 8x10.


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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    It's amazing how few people read the title of this thread. "210mm F5.6 Lens for 8x10."

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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    It's amazing how few people read the title of this thread. "210mm F5.6 Lens for 8x10."
    Sal, early in the discussion I asked the OP if he absolutely had to have f/5.6. He replied that he could live with f/6.8.

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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    It's amazing how few people read the title of this thread. "210mm F5.6 Lens for 8x10."
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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    Sal, early in the discussion I asked the OP if he absolutely had to have f/5.6. He replied that he could live with f/6.8.
    That was at PHOTRIO, not here.

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    Another country heard from...,
    I've heard that you northern California guys think of us down here as a separate country. Is this confirmation?

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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    ...I've heard that you northern California guys think of us down here as a separate country. Is this confirmation?
    Might as well be! I won't be visiting my brother in San Clemente for awhile -- They won't let me back into the county.
    Last edited by Vaughn; 12-Oct-2020 at 08:40.
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    Re: 210mm F5.6 Lens For 8x10

    The 210mm f/6.8 Dagor and Ilex Acuton f/4.8 215mm both cover 8x10, but not much more.
    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

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