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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    I had the handle from a graflite and bolted a cold shoe onto an aluminum cap. This gives me a removeable shoe to mount any electronic flash or a fanfold bulb flash. For extra power I attach a Metz via the tripod socket and use a Nikon SB800 in optical slave mode in the shoe. I hold the rig from the leather strap and edge of the left camera body. I would not trust the Metz handle or the Graflite to bear the weight of the body.

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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    Thats the Metz unit I was thinking about (think I mentioned the wrong model number) with the little fill light on the front. Bounced it can take remarkable un flash-like nicely illuminated photos.

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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    Howard, how does the SB 800 compare to the Potato Masher in real life?



    Quote Originally Posted by hsandler View Post
    I had the handle from a graflite and bolted a cold shoe onto an aluminum cap. This gives me a removeable shoe to mount any electronic flash or a fanfold bulb flash. For extra power I attach a Metz via the tripod socket and use a Nikon SB800 in optical slave mode in the shoe. I hold the rig from the leather strap and edge of the left camera body. I would not trust the Metz handle or the Graflite to bear the weight of the body.

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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    The SB-800 is pretty good for a digital-age shoe mount flash. It’s a little less, maybe a half stop, than a Vivitar 285. The Metz 45CT-5 is maybe a half stop to one stop more powerful than a Vivitar 285. But I really have not done a proper comparison. None of these are as bright as a Sylvania 25 bulb.

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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    I think the Vivitar 285, which is also quite good, has the variable power feature built into the adjuster for the flash ranges on auto exposure.

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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    Good to know!

    I informally compared SB 800, PC Buff Einstein and Sylvania 25 bulb with similar results to yours some years ago

    I won't be looking for a Metz

    but they are impressive totems

    Quote Originally Posted by hsandler View Post
    The SB-800 is pretty good for a digital-age shoe mount flash. It’s a little less, maybe a half stop, than a Vivitar 285. The Metz 45CT-5 is maybe a half stop to one stop more powerful than a Vivitar 285. But I really have not done a proper comparison. None of these are as bright as a Sylvania 25 bulb.
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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    I use the 285 in my rig (sideways picture earlier in thread). Only problem I have with that configuration is coverage. Flash is so high that parallax must be considered. Less of an issue when 284 set on “wide” but that sacrifices some light.

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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    Few use flashbulbs here

    This is my 1951 Speed with a 1951 conversion to use the Aero. I got it from the son of the original buyer

    I need 2 big handles to shoot this monster handheld, notice the flash bulb is covered with NOS flip up flash bulb safety shield

    However I do have trouble with the rear curtain sync, which is a metal strip on the curtain, but do use flashbulbs and normal lenses with working sync in the lens shutter

    I have made a laser FocuSpot for a smaller Speed, but don't use that on people

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    Nice little monster! Do you have troubles getting it focused via rangefinder?

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    Re: Advice for Handheld 4x5 and Flash Please..

    Yes, however I will try again to set RF

    I have changed the lens mount to Jo Lo lens board which moves the lens back into the front standard, thus getting the RF lever in better position

    I do wish Jo had made his very nice filter hood from plastic...

    As I use flashbulbs the batteries do add weight, the left handle has no batteries, yet I do have another set of flectors and safety shields

    Fortunately this camera had little usage and the rear curtain shutter works great, but I don't constantly test my luck by using very high shutter speeds


    Quote Originally Posted by Bolshoi View Post
    Nice little monster! Do you have troubles getting it focused via rangefinder?
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