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Thread: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    The extra bellows length on a 2" shorter rail accounts for swings, tilts, etc.
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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    I've used both Calumets extensively on the job. Dann Corbit, KEH sent you the correct camera, and it's a real workhorse- congratulations. The 22" rail is long enough for most any purpose.
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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    RivetGun: This forum doesn't have a "Like" button, I "liked" your post #5.

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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    Um, er, ah, why do you believe that? Calumet's Spring 1970 catalog says:
    Because it says that the CC-401 comes with a 22 inch long bellows.
    See also:
    http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Calumet_CC-400

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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    Most people who last in this game, change cameras quickly as they know more and want more

    I haven't seen a camera I don't 'like'

    which means I have more than I need

    somebody has to save them

    then it's the glass bead game, oops, meant lens game

    and everybody paid less for theirs
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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dann Corbit View Post
    Because it says that the CC-401 comes with a 22 inch long bellows.
    See also:
    http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Calumet_CC-400
    If the bellows were as long as the rail, movements would be impossible with full extension. Bellows are usually longer than the rail.

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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    CC-400 = 16" rail. Most common model.
    CC-401 = 22" rail. Otherwise identical to CC-400.
    CC-402 = wide-angle camera. Shorter rail, different front standard, bag bellows. Less common than the others.

    Originally introduced by Kodak c.1946, the design was sold to Calumet not long after; they made some improvements and continued to sell them until c.1990? when the line was replaced by Cambo-derived models. (Either Calumet owned Cambo, or vice-versa, in those days.)

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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sampson View Post
    I've used both Calumets extensively on the job. Dann Corbit, KEH sent you the correct camera, and it's a real workhorse- congratulations. The 22" rail is long enough for most any purpose.
    The LF learning process can be difficult, but don't be discouraged. Believe it or not, the members here are happy to help beginners... stick around and after a while you'll be helping others out, too. Best of luck with your new camera!
    It's a 20 inch rail, not a 22 inch rail.
    The bellows is 16 inches long, making this camera a CC-400 and not a CC-401.
    It's exactly identical to my other CC-400.

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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    I've decided just to keep the second CC-400 since returning postage is about half the cost of the camera. Besides which, I don't have a view camera lens longer than 40cm and since I don't have a camera that can use a longer lens, I simply won't buy one. I have other cameras with longer lenses and besides, I have a telescope with photographic adapters, which is a really, really long lens (should I need one).

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    Re: Rail size for a CALUMET 4X5 CC401?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sampson View Post
    CC-400 = 16" rail. Most common model.
    CC-401 = 22" rail. Otherwise identical to CC-400.
    CC-402 = wide-angle camera. Shorter rail, different front standard, bag bellows. Less common than the others.

    Originally introduced by Kodak c.1946, the design was sold to Calumet not long after; they made some improvements and continued to sell them until c.1990? when the line was replaced by Cambo-derived models. (Either Calumet owned Cambo, or vice-versa, in those days.)
    Those are the bellows lengths. The rail lengths are 20 inches for the CC-400 and 26 inches for the CC-401

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