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    Re: Cable release thread

    You realize that in the 70 years since this standard was written cable release sockets may have changed?

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    Re: Cable release thread

    Maybe Bob, but I seem to be able to use most cables with most shutters

    and many of us have pre 1950 shutters
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    Re: Cable release thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Jones View Post
    Attachment 205692
    Here it is again, rescanned from my copy of the original source.
    Similar dimensioned drawings can be found in "Screw-Thread Standards for Federal Services 1957 Part III" available here: https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Le...upp1957pt3.pdf
    See page 45. This is described as "...with straight (American) thread"

    You'll also see the "taper (European) thread" Its metric dimensions have been converted to inches, in particular its screw thread pitch is given as 50 threads per inch instead of 0.5 mm.
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    Re: Cable release thread

    And furthermore as a practical matter I have a cable release that I think is of the "American" pattern. It looks like a straight thread; length of thread is about as shown above. Using a leaf type thread gage, its pitch is 44 threads per inch (metric thread gage, pitch 0.5 mm is not a good fit). Wish I remembered where this came from, it looks pretty new. It will screw in to the shutter on my very late 210 mm Apo-Sironar-S rather better than I would have expected, certainly well enough to trip the shutter.

    For the sake of completeness a Linhof brand cable release (taper tip, 0.5 mm pitch of course) will screw in to the No. 3 Ilex Acme shutter for my 1964 8 1/2 inch Commercial Ektar and will trip it.
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    Re: Cable release thread

    Thanks for this crazy amount of info! I still have not received my taps yet. I will run test with a piece of aluminum first and let you know results.

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    Re: Cable release thread

    Small and big taps break easily

    Test on steel or whatever you are tapping

    I have several sets of broken tap removers that are also broken

    I have sent work to guys like this Broken Tap Removal by Metal Disintegration Machine (MDM)
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    Re: Cable release thread

    Sorry, I didn't want to upload a huge scan. I did test and it works fine if you download the image and view with an image editor/viewer or it prints out full page size just fine. Next time I'll just do a huge scan... And it's been uploaded as a larger scan already so...

    The straight specs are actually pretty worthless as the only thing that matters is the 5-44 tap size...


    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    Cannot read the specs on my 24" monitor

    Would you please post them in text

    Thank you

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    Re: Cable release thread

    Very interesting book with lots of good info. Thanks for that link!

    Quote Originally Posted by David Lindquist View Post
    Similar dimensioned drawings can be found in "Screw-Thread Standards for Federal Services 1957 Part III" available here: https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Le...upp1957pt3.pdf
    See page 45. This is described as "...with straight (American) thread"

    You'll also see the "taper (European) thread" Its metric dimensions have been converted to inches, in particular its screw thread pitch is given as 50 threads per inch instead of 0.5 mm.
    David

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    Re: Cable release thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RichSBV View Post
    Very interesting book with lots of good info. Thanks for that link!
    You are very welcome. I came across a related document dated 1985 "FED-STD-H28_18A" dealing only with photographic equipment related screw threads and not so detailed as this older version. It did say that it no longer contained a description of the straight ("American") shutter release thread as that standard had been withdrawn 3 Mar 1976.

    It does describe the tapered thread version, the "European" one. But now this is described in metric units including the pitch being 0.5 mm as opposed to 50 threads per inch in the 1957 document.
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    Re: Cable release thread

    Thanks yet again! I searched and found that document and the version 'C'. I then searched for the 'ANSI PH3.107' document it references but could not find a free copy... Ah-well, not worth $25 for me

    Quote Originally Posted by David Lindquist View Post
    You are very welcome. I came across a related document dated 1985 "FED-STD-H28_18A" dealing only with photographic equipment related screw threads and not so detailed as this older version. It did say that it no longer contained a description of the straight ("American") shutter release thread as that standard had been withdrawn 3 Mar 1976.

    It does describe the tapered thread version, the "European" one. But now this is described in metric units including the pitch being 0.5 mm as opposed to 50 threads per inch in the 1957 document.
    David

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