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    Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    Hi All,
    Anyone had experience with scanning 5x7 and 8x10 negatives? Would say an Epson Perfection V800 be up to the task? Is there a big difference between V800 and V850?
    Thanks, Steve

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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Hi All,
    Anyone had experience with scanning 5x7 and 8x10 negatives? Would say an Epson Perfection V800 be up to the task? Is there a big difference between V800 and V850?
    Thanks, Steve
    Nope to your question. Everyone seems to be jumping on the high resolution digital camera wagon these days. I had an old Microtek scanner probably 15 years back, they still make a version, on high resolution even modern scanners take forever and a day. It had a carrier for 8x10, but it took forever.

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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    I scan with Epson v700, mostly b&w 4x5, 5x7, and 8x10. I lay the two bigger ones flat on the glass emulsion side down. I think the difference between 800 & 850 is the 850 includes Silverfast software. I'm using Vuescan. Results are good.


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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    I've been scanning 8x10 for nearly 20 years on an Epson Expression 1680 Pro. It doesn't have the higher resolution of today's scanners, but it's fine for my needs.

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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    I’ve scanned 8x10 for many years, first with an Epson 4990, then with a V750. The higher resolution lens on the 750 will not cover 8x10, but it scans well with the lower resolution lens for my purposes. I use Vuescan, too.

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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Hi All,
    Anyone had experience with scanning 5x7 and 8x10 negatives? Would say an Epson Perfection V800 be up to the task? Is there a big difference between V800 and V850?
    Thanks, Steve
    As j.e. said, the Epson has two different lenses, the high resolution lens covers 5.9" so the 8x10 negatives are scanned with the lower resolution lens on the bed with emulsion side down, this still yields +300MPix effective which is an insane amount. Many drum scanning services only offer 2000dpi scans for 8x10", the same the Epson obtains for 8x10", a 4000dpi drum scan costs hunders of $ if offered, so we can say that the Epson and 8x10" size is a powerful combination.

    See my "famously infame" bell, epson 8x10 scanned, showing in your monitor like in a 6m high print: https://www.flickr.com/photos/125592...5/32535835184/

    See the bolts over the wood... well, this would be in a 6m print... if your print is 1.5m then it would be perfect.


    The V850 includes a Silverfast version that makes multi-exposure (https://www.silverfast.com/highlight...posure/en.html) that is useful for very underexposed velvia slides. If you purchase the V800 you later can upgrade the SF version to have M-E for some bucks.

    The 50 it usually includes a second set of holders, so you load next batch while scanning

    Also the 50 has lenses with better coating, but it's not clear if this adds any benefit in practice.


    The V800-850 does not include 5x7 holders so you have to scan it on bed with the lower resolution lens like with 8x10", but as the high resolution lens covers 5.9" wide you can scan it in holder at higher resolution with other third party or DIY solutions.

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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Pere Casals View Post
    As j.e. said, the Epson has two different lenses, the high resolution lens covers 5.9" so the 8x10 negatives are scanned with the lower resolution lens on the bed with emulsion side down, this still yields +300MPix effective which is an insane amount. Many drum scanning services only offer 2000dpi scans for 8x10", the same the Epson obtains for 8x10", a 4000dpi drum scan costs hunders of $ if offered, so we can say that the Epson and 8x10" size is a powerful combination.

    See my "famously infame" bell, epson 8x10 scanned, showing in your monitor like in a 6m high print: https://www.flickr.com/photos/125592...5/32535835184/

    See the bolts over the wood... well, this would be in a 6m print... if your print is 1.5m then it would be perfect.


    The V850 includes a Silverfast version that makes multi-exposure (https://www.silverfast.com/highlight...posure/en.html) that is useful for very underexposed velvia slides. If you purchase the V800 you later can upgrade the SF version to have M-E for some bucks.

    The 50 it usually includes a second set of holders, so you load next batch while scanning

    Also the 50 has lenses with better coating, but it's not clear if this adds any benefit in practice.


    The V800-850 does not include 5x7 holders so you have to scan it on bed with the lower resolution lens like with 8x10", but as the high resolution lens covers 5.9" wide you can scan it in holder at higher resolution with other third party or DIY solutions.
    Have you personally scanned Velvia with Silverfast?

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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    That is all good information. I have an older version of Silverfast but also use VueScan for most of my work. Just contemplating returning to the dark room or continue on the Epson print solutions. I am primarily a black and white printer have been using pezio

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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    That is all good information. I have an older version of Silverfast but also use VueScan for most of my work. Just contemplating returning to the dark room or continue on the Epson print solutions. I am primarily a black and white printer have been using pezio
    Return to the darkroom please.

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    Re: Scanning 8x10 Negatives

    I would 100% agree, love to spend all my time in the darkroom and really, really don't love hanging digital (inkjet) prints. That said, I shoot 6x17 as well and don't have an 8x10 enlarger so making digital negatives is actually a reasonable solution and provides a fiber based print in the end produced in the darkroom. I also love 8x10 contacts but have a few times where a larger print makes sense and again, the digital negative has some benefits. Photoshop makes it so simple to remove dust and artifacts and make small layer adjustments that I came to the realization that it can't be ignored anymore. Just my excuses for the day.

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