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    ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    Admittedly, I am very bad at envisioning a GG and how a certain focal length / comparison between two more FL's appears in practice.

    I have a 450M - thinking of adding a second lens. I am unsure how drastic of a difference a 355mm would make vs the 450. The other option is a 10". Neither lens is close enough for me to actually mount and see the difference , which would ve the ultimate way of answering this easy question.

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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    I'd get a long Artar as a second lens. Either a 19" or 24" depending on coverage. Don't know of many 10" lenses that will cover 11x14 with movements. L
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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    For 11x14, roughly speaking, divide by ten to get a 35mm "equivalent". (Yes, I know, different aspect ratio and all that.)

    For me, the difference between 355 and 450 is large, the difference between 10" and 450 downright intergalactic. But then a semiwide like 355 or 360 is my "normal" for 11x14, I'm very sensitive to differences in the way foreground/background relationships are rendered as you go longer or shorter than that, and my interest tends toward wide rather than long. I actually don't have much use for lenses longer than 360 on 11x14 - wouldn't use a 450 very much - but I can happily split hairs among focal lengths shorter than 360 and find a use for every last one.

    But that's how I see. I know you've done a fair bit of 8x10. As a starting point, the focal length spacing you find comfortable on 8x10 should, scaled proportionately (1.4x is close enough), be a reasonable guide to what you'll find useful on 11x14.

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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    For 11x14, I use a Nikon 450mm f/9 and 14in Commercial Ektar the most. I just added a Nikkor APO 610 f/9. If you are shooting close, a lot of 8x10 lenses will cover 11x14. I like to shoot 11x14 macros with a Schneider 150mm Super-Symmar XL.

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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    10" Wide Field Ektar

    Just makes it, maybe

    I have mounted one in studio...

    But nothing here https://www.largeformatphotography.i...=1#post1276852
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    is ???

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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    This site lets you simulate angle of view, DOF for various focal lengths and subject framings from tiny digital sensors all the way up to 11x14:

    https://dofsimulator.net/en/

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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    So much has to do with the subject matter that you are shooting and your ability to move closer or farther away from the subject. When I was photographing waterfalls in the gorges of southern New England, I was using an 8x10 and usually carried the following focal lengths with me: 210mm, 250mm, and 300mm. Almost all the time I was only able to shoot from just one place or vantage point relative to the waterfall. The effective difference between these 3 close focal lengths seemed huge to me when out in the field.Presently I now photograph with an 11x14 as much as I can. No more climbing upstream over what would be classified as a 4th class "hike". Most images taken within carrying distances from the back of my car. So now carry the following focal lengths with me: 200mm, 355mm or 360mm, and a 508mm or 600mm. These three optics offer me 3 very different viewpoints.Don't have a 450mm to compare with a 355mm, but do have 355mm and 508mm lenses. Honestly I don't find there to be a "drastic" difference between them. Between a 355mm and a 600mm, yes I do find a good difference between then but don't view it as a "drastic" difference.

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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    Think about lens focal lengths as they relate to the long and short sides, (and the diagonals) of the formats in question. 14" lens on 11x14 will be like to a 10" lens on 8x10, or a 5" lens on 4x5. (or a 24" lens on 20x24)
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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by Luis-F-S View Post
    I'd get a long Artar as a second lens. Either a 19" or 24" depending on coverage. Don't know of many 10" lenses that will cover 11x14 with movements. L
    The 240mm Computer will cover 11x14 with movements no problem. I agree with you that the 19" and the 24" lens are not that "long" on 11x14. I find I also use the 30" and 35" focal lengths as well in the expansive mountains of Colorado, Wyoming and Montana.

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    Re: ULF - 11x14 - Focal Length Lineup

    I'll suggest that it all depends upon your subject matter, whatever that may be.

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