Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 22

Thread: Color Processing

  1. #11

    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    259

    Re: Color Processing

    Thank you so much Roger! That's very VERY helpful and yep I'll check out Karl's website!

  2. #12
    Foamer
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    South Dakota
    Posts
    2,163

    Re: Color Processing

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Thoms View Post
    I was unaware that E6 stains. Am I going to have issues with the kitchen sink in the house I rent? It's a porcelain enameled cast iron sink thatís under mounted with a ceramic tile counter. It would be a lot of work to replace.

    Roger

    Doing some more research, looks like the bleach/fix will stain like a sonna bitch. My plan is to use the lid from a large plastic storage tub (upside down) as my work area. I do that for wet plate chemicals and it works well. Will use a funnel to pour chemicals to avoid splatters. Will rinse things off in the sink but use LOTS of water and wipe down when I'm done. Wife is already on the war path about tiny silver nitrate stains (wet plate) so I need to take great care.


    Kent in SD
    Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris,
    miserere nobis.

  3. #13
    Roger Thoms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    San Francisco, CA, Flagstaff AZ
    Posts
    1,343

    Re: Color Processing

    Thanks for the heads up.

    Roger

  4. #14

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    SooooCal/LA USA
    Posts
    2,103

    Re: Color Processing

    If you use a basin or tray as a water bath, and some drips into it, it will be diluted and way easier to clean up...

    Steve K

  5. #15

    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    259

    Re: Color Processing

    Curious as I've read some folks using the developer with replenishment though Z131 says not to do this for rotary processors. I assume it's because the rotary process aerates the developer too much. Using replenishment would help with the economics a bit though - maybe aside from the test strips (which are kinda expensive).

    Given Z131's capacities, and some maths (including pricing and shipping from Unique Photo), I came up with a per-item price being:

    35mm/36: $4.23
    120: $6.34
    4x5: $1.59

    Still more economical than using a lab but quite a bit more than using a blix press kit, though with likely superior results. I do wish Kodak mentioned why replenishment isn't ideal so I didn't have to assume. I use replenishment with XTOL and, granted, much different beast, but get great results with it.

    EDIT: Follow up, I noticed there's two C-41 fixer/replenisher options for Unique Photo. I don't know the differences but one is much cheaper and has a higher capacity than the other. EDIT2: Aha! The cheaper one is actually more expensive due to the high cost of shipping.

    https://www.uniquephoto.com/product/...ing/flexicolor

    https://www.uniquephoto.com/product/...Dmake%2D10l%2D

    EDIT3: Thought I would share my numbers so I made a Google Doc which folks can view to see how I'm calculating costs. Folks can copy the doc and plug in their own shipping price as well:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1235198594
    Last edited by m00dawg; 12-May-2020 at 11:10. Reason: added UP links, gDoc

  6. #16

    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Annapolis, Maryland
    Posts
    115

    Re: Color Processing

    FWIW, I think C41 is far easier than B&W. I've been using a JOBO and that helps enormously (highly recommended). Haven't tried E6.... so I leave you there. Most of what I've done is 35mm and 120, but with recent move to make LF 4X5 my main squeeze, I've been B&W just fine and expect to do more C41 soon. I've used Tetenal, Unicolor and Arista C41 and prices vary - mostly dry vs. liquid, but I haven't noticed any differences in results per se.
    Much has been made of substituting the original Kodak chems for BLIX used in these packages, but I've never tried that. I've bowed before the acknowledgement of those who have, but it's all one step at a time with me, and BLIX has looked fine enough for most C41. Perhaps REAL art photography merits the finer approach, but for everyday... Portra comes out fine. Give it a try. Don't be intimidated.

  7. #17
    Foamer
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    South Dakota
    Posts
    2,163

    Re: Color Processing

    I have the Arista E6 kit coming from Freestyle.


    Kent in SD
    Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris,
    miserere nobis.

  8. #18

    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Iowa City, Iowa
    Posts
    1,205

    Re: Color Processing

    Quote Originally Posted by m00dawg View Post
    Curious as I've read some folks using the developer with replenishment though Z131 says not to do this for rotary processors. I assume it's because the rotary process aerates the developer too much. Using replenishment would help with the economics a bit though - maybe aside from the test strips (which are kinda expensive).

    Given Z131's capacities, and some maths (including pricing and shipping from Unique Photo), I came up with a per-item price being:

    35mm/36: $4.23
    120: $6.34
    4x5: $1.59

    Still more economical than using a lab but quite a bit more than using a blix press kit, though with likely superior results. I do wish Kodak mentioned why replenishment isn't ideal so I didn't have to assume. I use replenishment with XTOL and, granted, much different beast, but get great results with it.

    EDIT: Follow up, I noticed there's two C-41 fixer/replenisher options for Unique Photo. I don't know the differences but one is much cheaper and has a higher capacity than the other. EDIT2: Aha! The cheaper one is actually more expensive due to the high cost of shipping.

    https://www.uniquephoto.com/product/...ing/flexicolor

    https://www.uniquephoto.com/product/...Dmake%2D10l%2D

    EDIT3: Thought I would share my numbers so I made a Google Doc which folks can view to see how I'm calculating costs. Folks can copy the doc and plug in their own shipping price as well:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1235198594
    C41 Flexicolor Developer replenisher(5L of replenisher makes over 6L of developer) is 14 bucks, a bottle of starter will cost about the same, there's enough starter in that bottle it will last you for a decade. I use and toss the developer (Jobo) replenish the Flexicolor bleach (a 5 liter bottle will last forever 6-8 mL per roll replenishment ), use and toss the fixer. GET THE C-41RA Bleach

  9. #19

    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Iowa City, Iowa
    Posts
    1,205

    Re: Color Processing

    Quote Originally Posted by Two23 View Post
    I have the Arista E6 kit coming from Freestyle.


    Kent in SD
    This will work great. Nothing more fun than processing slides.

  10. #20
    Foamer
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    South Dakota
    Posts
    2,163

    Re: Color Processing

    Also just ordered a sous vide thing to keep temperature constant.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    Kent in SD
    Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris,
    miserere nobis.

Similar Threads

  1. Processing Color Transparency film as Color Negative
    By Greg in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 25-Sep-2018, 11:46
  2. color processing ( c41 + e6 )
    By jnantz in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 1-Nov-2010, 18:18
  3. color processing
    By e2aa in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 17-Dec-2009, 13:57
  4. Color processing
    By Tintype Bob in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 19-Aug-2008, 15:06
  5. processing color LF
    By tor kviljo in forum Resources
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 9-Feb-2005, 20:20

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •