Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 36

Thread: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

  1. #1

    Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    What if I just tape a thicker parcel/multi purpose tape on the glass (or two layers) like a frame so thereís a tiny gap between the negative and the glass when contact printing so it might help avoiding newton rings?

  2. #2
    Vaughn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Humboldt County, CA
    Posts
    7,628

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    -edited to remove mistaken visualization-

    One starts to lose sharpness quickly without firm contact.

    Sometimes excessive pressure causes the rings, as does any hint of moisture. Its a physics thing, dang it...some sort of light interference happening between two tightly held-together smooth transparent surfaces.

    There is anti-newton glass (a little rough on one side), and I believe there are some sprays one can use on glass to get it to act like anti-newton glass.

    Just a wild thought -- have not tried it: There is clear shelf-lining paper with an adhesive backing. I wonder if one covers a sheet of glass with it, the plastic surface might not create newton rings as much (or at all) like the glass surface does.
    "Landscapes exist in the material world yet soar in the realms of the spirit..." Tsung Ping, 5th Century China

  3. #3
    Eric Woodbury
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    1,405

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    Make the top of the sandwich a diffuse material and the rings go away. Materials such as Satinice and white plexilgass. Also, as Vaughn noted, use any textured material above that touches the top of the negative. And nowadays, altho I have not tried, the coated museum glasses would probably work with coating towards the negative.

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    906

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Woodbury View Post
    And nowadays, altho I have not tried, the coated museum glasses would probably work with coating towards the negative.
    I would definitely try this idea! Many years ago, Ron Wisner and I tackled this issue because I was having terrible ring issues at the time. He wound up sending me a single-coated sheet of heavy glass (the same coating used on lens elements, I believe) and, voila, rings gone!

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Aug 2000
    Location
    California
    Posts
    3,215

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    Museum glass works beautifully, but is expensive. I also have some "non-glare" glass for framing which I like.
    Last edited by Jim Noel; 28-Feb-2020 at 13:51. Reason: more info

  6. #6

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Woodbury View Post
    Make the top of the sandwich a diffuse material and the rings go away. Materials such as Satinice and white plexilgass. Also, as Vaughn noted, use any textured material above that touches the top of the negative. And nowadays, altho I have not tried, the coated museum glasses would probably work with coating towards the negative.
    I found it both satinised glass and plexiglass as well. The latter is dirt cheap. What you reckon how thick it should be? Is the glassí weight is enough or should I tape it on the baseboard or easel?

  7. #7
    ic-racer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    5,569

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    I used to lift up an edge of the glass and set it down just before the exposure. The Newton rings would move around before settling, and this movement eliminate them from visibility in the print. Worked most of the time when making proof prints.

  8. #8

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post
    -edited to remove mistaken visualization-

    One starts to lose sharpness quickly without firm contact.

    Sometimes excessive pressure causes the rings, as does any hint of moisture. Its a physics thing, dang it...some sort of light interference happening between two tightly held-together smooth transparent surfaces.

    There is anti-newton glass (a little rough on one side), and I believe there are some sprays one can use on glass to get it to act like anti-newton glass.

    Just a wild thought -- have not tried it: There is clear shelf-lining paper with an adhesive backing. I wonder if one covers a sheet of glass with it, the plastic surface might not create newton rings as much (or at all) like the glass surface does.
    Thanks for the idea! I’ve seen these adhesive materials with frost effect. I’m just wondering if the plexiglass or acid etched glass or these adhesive stuffs surface will be visible on the prints?

  9. #9
    Vaughn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Humboldt County, CA
    Posts
    7,628

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    Stick a strip of sticky tape on a piece of glass and give it a test! Perhaps no negative and exposed to light gray...look for any pattern formed under the tape...or do the test with an image.

    or

    Lay your negative on the photo paper, cover half with your regular glass and the other half with plex and determine if there is any quality difference. Use an image with large areas of even tonality.
    "Landscapes exist in the material world yet soar in the realms of the spirit..." Tsung Ping, 5th Century China

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Sep 1998
    Location
    Buford, GA
    Posts
    13,153

    Re: Can it be a solution for avoiding newton rings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laci Toth View Post
    Thanks for the idea! Iíve seen these adhesive materials with frost effect. Iím just wondering if the plexiglass or acid etched glass or these adhesive stuffs surface will be visible on the prints?
    Not if it is AN glass and is on the base side of the film as you focus on the emulsion side.

Similar Threads

  1. Newton rings
    By sergiob in forum Digital Processing
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 29-Sep-2010, 16:31
  2. Newton rings from my anti-newton glass carrier
    By jason1388 in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 25-Feb-2010, 18:50
  3. Newton's Rings
    By Tim Kimbler in forum Digital Hardware
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 5-Jan-2006, 11:55
  4. Newton Rings?
    By Robert Ruderman in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 26-Oct-2005, 14:35
  5. Newton Rings
    By Bob Salomon in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 28-Sep-2004, 19:42

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •