Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Fremont, CA
    Posts
    42

    pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if there are significant drawbacks in having one lens act like a second one's focal length? For instance, say I have a 240mm lens but like the 360mm look so instead of buying a 360mm lens, I could use more bellows on the 240mm lens to achieve the 360mm look. Does that work as an acceptable substitute or would there be some problems with this method? I take it there would be possible problems, like vignetting on the lens you're trying to extend? Is it simply better just to go for the actual lens focal length as it was originally intended?

    Thanks!

  2. #2
    Big Negs Rock!
    Join Date
    Mar 2000
    Location
    Pasadena
    Posts
    1,188

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    Umm, the bellows are used for focusing the lens. This is focusing the lens. If one moves the camera closer to a subject, the bellows are extended & the image is larger -- not because the bellows are extended, but the bellows need to be extended because the camera is now closer. What you speak of is a zoom lens. All of that said, you might approximate the effect of a longer lens by cropping the shot so you're using less of the negative. It's a close approximation of a different focal length (longer), but not exact.

    I hope this helps.
    Mark Woods

    Large Format B&W
    Cinematography Mentor at the American Film Institute
    Past President of the Pasadena Society of Artists
    Director of Photography
    Pasadena, CA
    www.markwoods.com

  3. #3
    Foamer
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    South Dakota
    Posts
    2,430

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    The magnification will be the same but the perspective will be different.


    Kent in SD
    In contento ed allegria
    Notte e di vogliam passar!

  4. #4
    Big Negs Rock!
    Join Date
    Mar 2000
    Location
    Pasadena
    Posts
    1,188

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    Yes
    Mark Woods

    Large Format B&W
    Cinematography Mentor at the American Film Institute
    Past President of the Pasadena Society of Artists
    Director of Photography
    Pasadena, CA
    www.markwoods.com

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Sep 1998
    Location
    Loganville , GA
    Posts
    14,410

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    No, it would still be a 240 if you want it to look like a 300 you will need a 300.

  6. #6
    Eric Woodbury
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    1,641

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    Use a pinhole. Focal length is wherever you use it. Not always perfectly sized for lowest diffraction, but close enough. I suppose you could have multiples holes in a pinhole plate and pick the size you want by covering/uncovering the various pinholes as a means of optimization.

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    San Joaquin Valley, California
    Posts
    9,601

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    If I wanted both a 240 and a 360 but could only afford one lens, I'd split the difference and get a 300.
    It would be close!
    Or look for a convertible lens. IIRC there was a convertible Symmar that might put you in the focal length ball park.
    "I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority"---EB White

  8. #8
    Vaughn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Humboldt County, CA
    Posts
    9,222

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    Framing a head and shoulders portrait with the 240mm, because of the closeness of the camera to the subject, you will get more of a perspective shift (foreshortening) than with a head and shoulder image with a 360mm. So the look/feel will be quite different. If you position the camera (w/240mm) the same distance from the subject as one would position a camera with a 360mm for a H&S image, then cropped the image to a H&S, you would have the same look, but as Two23 mentioned, the image will be smaller.

    So this route will depend on the size of your format and how small of an image are you willing to end up with.
    "Landscapes exist in the material world yet soar in the realms of the spirit..." Tsung Ping, 5th Century China

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    3,901

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    Short answer, no.

    Bellows length is much about lens distance to image recorder (film or _) required to focus a given lens to the object to be imaged.

    Note examples number one & two from this web page.
    https://fivedayfilm.com/guide-to-cinematic-shots/


    Bernice

  10. #10
    Mark Sawyer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Stuck inside of Tucson with the Neverland Blues again...
    Posts
    6,269

    Re: pros/cons of two different lenses at the same focal length?

    Technically, it would work, but the image at 360mm would be waaay out of focus. If you were at a very small aperture, that would bring it back into near-focus somewhat-if-you-aren't-too-fussy, and the angle-of-view would be that of a 360mm.

    So yeah, it would work. Very, very badly.
    Last edited by Mark Sawyer; 14-Feb-2020 at 11:12.
    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

Similar Threads

  1. Grafmatic : Pros and Cons?
    By Drew Bedo in forum Cameras & Camera Accessories
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 11-Aug-2015, 20:29
  2. Grafmatic : Pros and Cons?
    By Drew Bedo in forum Style & Technique
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 6-Aug-2015, 16:55
  3. Kardan re and short focal length lenses - rail length
    By Michael R in forum Cameras & Camera Accessories
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 5-Oct-2014, 11:32
  4. Replies: 16
    Last Post: 4-Sep-2013, 11:31
  5. DiXactol Pros and Cons ?
    By Richard Rees in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 19-Feb-2010, 16:11

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •