Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst ... 234
Results 31 to 40 of 40

Thread: A question on FS rule enforcement

  1. #31

    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    222

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    Quote Originally Posted by C. D. Keth View Post
    My thinking is the other way round. Several years ago the classifieds were a little “Wild West” but there was (at least seemingly) 3x the activity. You just had to mentally filter things a bit which is a very easy task.

    I agree.

  2. #32

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Posts
    4,826

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    Um, er, ah, have any of you posters who allege that our resident curmudgeons have driven new arrivals away asked the departees why they didn't stick around?

    I don't recall seeing many announcements to the effect of "A curmudgeon bit me so I'm leaving."
    You must be new around here. Ha ha ha.

  3. #33
    Tin Can's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    13,199

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    I have blocked a 2 nasty people, not over FS/WTB but just always rude to me in my early days here

    Don't miss them at all

    I also think a few have blocked me

    Nobody is happy and helpful all day long...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    Um, er, ah, have any of you posters who allege that our resident curmudgeons have driven new arrivals away asked the departees why they didn't stick around?

    I don't recall seeing many announcements to the effect of "A curmudgeon bit me so I'm leaving."
    sin eater

  4. #34

    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sonora, California
    Posts
    1,456

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    Quote Originally Posted by C. D. Keth View Post
    My thinking is the other way round. Several years ago the classifieds were a little “Wild West” but there was (at least seemingly) 3x the activity. You just had to mentally filter things a bit which is a very easy task.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Its a good point and I agree.
    I've had many good transactions here in the past...and even met some good people face-to-face in the process.
    Under the current rules and restrictions, the classified area here is pretty useless.

  5. #35

    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Corvallis, OR
    Posts
    613

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    My take on it is this: if someone wants to “bump” an ad for something repeatedly and frequently to push the sale, then it gives me the chance to gather some data about that seller and their attitude towards the sale. If they appear “too eager/aggressive”, then I will likely avoid this sale item (and seller, in future) If they bump the ad twice a week, dropping the price by 5% each time, then I know they’re hot to get it off their hands, and contacting them to make an offer might bear fruit. There are all kinds of things you can glean from how a person presents an item they wish to sell, and knowing certain things can work in your favor. Allowing someone to push a sale item however they wish let’s me see some things I might not otherwise see, and to evaluate the seller to determine how likely/unlikely the purchase (and experience) would be satisfactory.

    When browsing internet flea markets for equipment, not only do I look at the sellers star ratings, but if they have negative feedback, I look to see if the seller responds to it. I’ve seen sellers who reply to every instance of negative feedback by insulting the buyer horrifically. That is a seller I KNOW I don’t want to deal with. If a seller re-lists the same item over and over for months and never lowers the price, I stop watching that item because they won’t likely drop the price or consider lower offers. Etc. So I’m all for letting people present themselves however they wish in order to sell an item. More data, I say.

  6. #36

    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    7,568

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    Is this site primarily a marketplace or a source of information and mutual assistance?

    As I understand what the site is about, the complaints in this discussion -- gripes about bluntness aside -- are a classic case of the tail wagging the dog.

  7. #37
    Vaughn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Humboldt County, CA
    Posts
    7,405

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    Excellent point, Dan, and I agree.

    I was disappointed at first -- when we could have discussions in the marketplace threads, a lot of good information was shared about the equipment, etc. However, because this site was founded and is maintained primarily as a "source of information and mutual assistance" and the marketplace threads are not archived, that good info discussed in marketplace threads (instead on the main forum) is lost, thus defeating the purpose of this forum.
    "Landscapes exist in the material world yet soar in the realms of the spirit..." Tsung Ping, 5th Century China

  8. #38
    Exploring Large Format
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    11

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    I'm very new, but not young. Learned a ton already, and bought a few items at good prices. Always a few goodies thrown in--probably because of the sense of community. Nice in these times.

    Can't comment on the previous rules, but think the current balance makes sense.

    Curmudgeons? At times, for sure! Also, loads of patience, especially for us newbies. And often from the same person who was a curmudgeon five minutes before.

    To the moderators: I'm grateful!

    To the sellers: This is ONE of many outlets for you.

    To the buyers: WTB also works well. Some sellers didn't know they were about to sell until prompted. Worked well already for me as one seeking to buy.

    Suggestion (unless it exists and I missed it): Create a "Guiding Principles Statement" or whatever you want to call it. Purpose is to call folks IN, not call folks OUT, but establishes a purpose, a tone, a vision for where Large Format Photography, the endeavor not the Forum, is heading. This doesn't have to be prescriptive because it can list the various ways folks use the Forum. But it is a kind of gentle leadership and direction. It's a welcome that won't stop individual bad actors or slip ups, but it shows intention of the collective.

    Thanks again to the Moderators! Really challenging, but also a real contribution.

    I doubt I would have dived into Large Format had I not stumbled into this space. The marketing of goods was a big bonus, but not the essence for me.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

  9. #39
    Corran's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    North GA Mountains
    Posts
    7,244

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    A quick observation.

    There's a recent thread in the "Lens and Lens Accessories" subforum about the Nikkor-M 300mm Q.

    I note that, at least here on my machine, the 3 top threads at the bottom are all "For Sale" threads, and are all from 7+ years ago.

    It has been said that threads in the FS subforum are not archived. Not sure what that means (don't come up on Google searches?) but they certainly get linked internally through that system. I wonder why "Similar Threads" list on the bottom there is populated with 75% ancient FS threads and I wonder if more healthy discussion inside such threads also raises them in "rank."

    Again, just an observation.
    Bryan | Blog | YouTube | Instagram
    All comments and thoughtful critique welcome

  10. #40
    Eric Woodbury
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    1,360

    Re: A question on FS rule enforcement

    I like the FS and WTB sections. I check them regularly. As Vaughn noted, there is great info there. I get to see equipment that I would otherwise never know. I sell occasionally, too. Right now the bed in my studio is covered in gear that needs to go and I plan to offer it here. I don't want to deal with auctions when I can deal with friends. I understand wanting gear listed at the top all the time, but this is not an auction house and these ads are free. It's more of a bulletin board. Still it is hard to sort what has sold from what hasn't. Then all the emails through PM are a pain, too, as my PM box is always full.

    I didn't join the Forum for the sale section, but for the information exchange. Times are changing though. Santa Barbara once had more photo stores than you could count and now none. Craigslist once had all manner and fashion of photo equipment and now it is new stuff and a Tiltall tripod that just won't sell despite it being bumped to the top for months now (and a good price).

    What might make sense is more variables in the FS section: FS Darkroom, FS Large format, FS Medium format, etc. This makes more room at the top because there are more tops, easier searches, and maintains the rules. There will still be the grumps that aren't happy, but there are always grumps.

Similar Threads

  1. One Tripod to Rule Them All?
    By dodphotography in forum Cameras & Camera Accessories
    Replies: 99
    Last Post: 11-Sep-2019, 07:10
  2. Replies: 213
    Last Post: 14-Dec-2012, 08:43
  3. New Rule...
    By Mark Sawyer in forum Feedback
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: 9-Nov-2012, 09:46
  4. Scheimpflug Rule
    By raylamsk in forum On Photography
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 20-Jul-2007, 11:31
  5. The one third into the scene rule
    By Leonard Evens in forum Style & Technique
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 27-Jul-2006, 06:52

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •