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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Gales View Post
    Most 35mm camera lenses are sharp and contrasty. I can't even think of a soft focus lens for 35mm cameras.
    they definitely exist: https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensrev...Soft-Lens.html

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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Quote Originally Posted by abruzzi View Post
    Thanks. I learned something new.

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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Here's another option Alan, if you find it difficult to decide, when looking at the negative or tranparency with a loupe, make a few sectional prints. Rack your enlarger to large print magnification, or if you're not doing the lab work, have your lab make you a couple of 8x10" prints from a portion of your negative scaled to the actual large print size you desire.
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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Y View Post
    Here's another option Alan, if you find it difficult to decide, looking at the negative or tranparency with a loupe, rack your enlarger to magnification, or if you're not doing the lab work, have your lab make you a couple of 8x10" prints from a portion of your negative scaled to the actual print size you desire.
    Thatís a bit confusing, if you are using a loupe itís magnification could be different then the print size you want.

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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Kiyohara VK70R = 70mm, VK50R = 50mm. These "soft focus" lenses were specifically designed for 35mm film. Sort of a fad item back when new, few years ago they were mostly unknown and very low $ on eBay and else where, not any more once it was discovered they work on modern mirrorless digital cameras. They are sort of like a miniaturized Kodak Portrait lens.

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    Canon made a 85mm FD (manual focus) soft focus lens and a 135mm EF (auto focus) soft focus lens. Canon and others past and present made small format soft focus lenses. IMO, they are Meh... compared to 5x7 and larger sheet film made using soft focus lenses then contact printed. These prints have a unique and rather special image quality in many ways.


    Bernice






    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Gales View Post
    I can't even think of a soft focus lens for 35mm cameras.

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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Thanks everyone for the ideas about sharpness. Since I shoot landscapes mainly, greater DOF is my usual criteria. Of course with LF, tilts allow a different focusing technique over MF I had been shooting. For what it's worth, these are sample shots from the first three LF lenses I've used - 75mm, 90mm, and 150mm. I just got a 300mm from Japan (three day shipment time, pretty amazing), but haven't tried it yet.

    Could you tell from scans how the three lenses are? To me they seem sharp OK. I realize these are scans with a lot of sharpening that's required of scans. But I don't think I have experience enough to know if a negative/lens is really sharp just looking through my 8x loupe.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/alankl...57714124881023

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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    That’s a bit confusing, if you are using a loupe it’s magnification could be different then the print size you want.
    You're right Bob..... I meant make a print or have a print made. Not an 8' x3' print made..... but small (8"x10") sectional prints.... BUT portions at high magnification.

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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Y View Post
    You're right Bob..... I meant make a print or have a print made. Not an 8' x3' print made..... but small (8"x10") sectional prints.... BUT portions at high magnification.
    You misunderstood me. If you use a 4x loupe on 45 you are seeing what to expect on a 16x20Ē print.
    If you are having 810 prints made from a section of a large print you may easily be looking at more then 4x.
    And things that are acceptable at 4x, like depth of field, may be very unacceptable on a 30x40Ē print.

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    Re: Which of my 5 LF lenses are worth keeping or worth upgrading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernice Loui View Post
    Kiyohara VK70R = 70mm, VK50R = 50mm. These "soft focus" lenses were specifically designed for 35mm film. Sort of a fad item back when new, few years ago they were mostly unknown and very low $ on eBay and else where, not any more once it was discovered they work on modern mirrorless digital cameras. They are sort of like a miniaturized Kodak Portrait lens.

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    Canon made a 85mm FD (manual focus) soft focus lens and a 135mm EF (auto focus) soft focus lens. Canon and others past and present made small format soft focus lenses. IMO, they are Meh... compared to 5x7 and larger sheet film made using soft focus lenses then contact printed. These prints have a unique and rather special image quality in many ways.


    Bernice
    Thanks, Bernice!

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