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    George Hurrell, Documentary

    Discussion about Fashion Fotos and Edward Jean Steichen got me thinking about a documentary done on George Hurrell some years ago. The doc appeared on Youtube, then disappeared. Now it has re-appeared. This is a worth while watch for any interested this style of Portrait image making using a LF camera, lighting, composition. Keep in mind George Hurrell started out as a painter, then moved on to photography as a means for survival. Keep in mind, the 8x10 negatives used to create these Hollywood images from that era were "retouched" to extreme degrees in some cases (scrape, fill, pencil and a LOT more) to achieve the PR look needed and expected. This is one of the many reasons why the 8x10 film negative was such an excellent tool for this kind of image making.

    The doc was sponsored by Canon.. which is a bit "humorous" near the end as there is Canon EOS promo near the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G7-J0lOncQ



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    A wonderful documentary!

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    Yeah, that was fun. Thanks for the link!
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    Quite enjoyable. Thank you.
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    Alas, not a word about lenses. Guess it's just geeks like us, er, uh... me, that care about such!

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    Much of GH images were about lighting-shadows-composition and greater less about camera-lens as camera-lens alone can NEVER produce the results GH got in his images.

    Yes, that is a Kodak Commercial Ektar used by GH in this doc, but GH used a variety of lenses over the course of his work. He also used Mole-Richardson lighting which was very common in Hollywood. Notice the clothesline clip together with cardboard lens shade and curious dark cloth and... GH also used a Canon EOS towards the end of this doc as promo...

    As previously mentioned, what was not discussed-mentioned are the highly skilled negative re-workers that so completely altered these negatives to meet what was needed in the images to be produced. This IS the similar-identical to "Photoshop" of today.


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    Alas, not a word about lenses. Guess it's just geeks like us, er, uh... me, that care about such!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernice Loui View Post
    Much of GH images were about lighting-shadows-composition and greater less about camera-lens as camera-lens alone can NEVER produce the results GH got in his images.
    That wasn't my point. But never mind.

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    Bernice, as recently as 1995 my second and last wife Marnie was retouching 8x10 chromes of Playboy models. She would not show me how. They film was sent by courier. I never saw what she did.

    She also painted set backdrops.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bernice Loui View Post
    Much of GH images were about lighting-shadows-composition and greater less about camera-lens as camera-lens alone can NEVER produce the results GH got in his images.

    Yes, that is a Kodak Commercial Ektar used by GH in this doc, but GH used a variety of lenses over the course of his work. He also used Mole-Richardson lighting which was very common in Hollywood. Notice the clothesline clip together with cardboard lens shade and curious dark cloth and... GH also used a Canon EOS towards the end of this doc as promo...

    As previously mentioned, what was not discussed-mentioned are the highly skilled negative re-workers that so completely altered these negatives to meet what was needed in the images to be produced. This IS the similar-identical to "Photoshop" of today.


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    Looked like a Commercial Ektar.
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    Early close up of the front shows a Goerz lens on the camera.
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