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Thread: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

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    Re: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

    I went with an IQsmart 2 - I got it refurbed by so it was around $5k. Not that much more than a Canon 5D with a good macro lens I guess.

    I still have the Epson 750 sitting around - not sure if I'll keep it or sell it. I had a Nikon Coolscan for MF but it eventually self destructed so I scan everything on the IQsmart. About the only time I'd like higher resolution is when I scan Minox negs.

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    Re: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

    Would it make sense to use one of those old 35mm slide production mechanisms that give one all that control over the color of background light for scanning 35 mm slides?

    One aspect that separates current scanners from the older, more capable drum scanners is the ability to adjust gain. With DSLR scanning, is that not possible by changing the aperture of the lense or increasing the intensity of the backlight?

    If not technically the same, does this not simulate the same effect?

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    Re: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

    Yes. Complete control over lighting and exposure is a big benefit of digital camera scanning. You can optimize the capture, which is rare or difficult with consumer scanners.
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    Re: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter De Smidt View Post
    Yes. Complete control over lighting and exposure is a big benefit of digital camera scanning. You can optimize the capture, which is rare or difficult with consumer scanners.
    It can though be difficult to deal with every dense areas of a negative.

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    I never really ran into difficulties with dense areas of negatives. As I said earlier, my old system was about 1 stop better than an Epson with regards to max density. If needed, multi-exposures are very effective for dealing with film with a huge range of densities.
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    Re: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

    Thanks everyone.

    I already own a v500 for scanning 120 film. I used to own a Nikon Coolscan 8000ED but it broke and repair cost was too high. I sold it "as is" years ago to someone who was going to try a painstaking DIY fix.

    I'm going to go Epson 4990 route w/ Betterscanning 4x5 film holder. Thanks again!

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    Re: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

    Quote Originally Posted by Wista45SP View Post
    Thanks everyone.

    I already own a v500 for scanning 120 film. I used to own a Nikon Coolscan 8000ED but it broke and repair cost was too high. I sold it "as is" years ago to someone who was going to try a painstaking DIY fix.

    I'm going to go Epson 4990 route w/ Betterscanning 4x5 film holder. Thanks again!
    I have the Coolscan 9000 which is a similar model. Do you remember what broke with your machine?

    Tom

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    Re: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter De Smidt View Post
    I don't take a single shot. For 4x5, I take 25...automatically. I've tested both my system and an Epson with a high resolution chrome on glass target, as well as with a calibrated Stouffer stepwedge. My system, one with a lowly D600, outperforms the Epson by about 1000 spi, and it has at least 1 stop more dynamic range. Get a better camera, and this difference gets even greater.
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    Peter, your multi shot approach sounds interesting - would you be able to give more details? You have a machine or slider of sorts that moves the negative around for DSLR?... Cheers

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    Re: Scanning 4x5: Buying an Epson Flatbed VS my current DSLR (5DII) VS Lab Scans

    Peter, I've just had a look at those videos - great work - and your set-up seems more akin to "scanning" than some of the methods I've seen advocated, using a simple copy stand, light source, and possible multi-shot capable camera (e.g Pansonic S1R) - I wonder how the approaches compare?

    Tom

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