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    I think OP made a few bags in all sizes then sold a few on eBay along with a service.

    I bought one bag and a bag installed on a Mag from OP

    Biz was slow

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    Re: Graflex bagmag restoration manual

    ...well the pdf's don't seem to open or download anymore....
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    Re: Graflex bagmag restoration manual

    Actually they do, as I just downloaded both, all they are is a pattern, which is very helpful

    In post 1 he does describe how to install

    I suggest anyone copy post 1 as OP can delete it all

    I have one Bag Mag that has 18 film sheaths and useable even with my fumble fingers

    I have BAG MAG 2X3, 3X4 and 4X5 and don't want 5X7. Too darn big!

    Grafmatics were a big improvement, I have 2-6X9 and 3-4X5 but they only have 6 film sheathes and are not interchangeable with Bag Mags



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    Re: Graflex bagmag restoration manual

    Thanks Alex!

    I am reposting to remind users to read and preserve the text



    Quote Originally Posted by Bolshoi View Post
    Guess its time for me to translate the expierence i accrued into DIY manuals. I'm going to post my manuals here from time to time
    I'm a semi-professional camera repairman and Grarflex has always been my sincere love, although these cameras are extremely rare here in Russia.
    This manual is intended for beginners, so let's start from the begginning.
    The Bagmag.
    I'm pretty sure that after buying a Graflex SLR you will eventually encounter one of these. Graflex SLR are primarily intended to be used with these somewhat bulky boxes. Although these days Graflexes are almost exclusively used with rollfilm adapters, i strongly advocate using sheet film. Largest adapter size is only 2x3 inch, which is substantially smaller than 3 1/4x 4 1/4 frame size, not to mention 4x5. With a rollfilm your Graflex essentialy becoming a mediocre, heavy and cumbersome medium-format camera equipped with pretty long lens. Is it worth it? I don't thinks so. Another option for sheet film is slotted film holder, but it only holds 2 exposures, while a bagmag contains 12 (or even 18!), which you can swap fairly quick.

    I consider before proceeding to a DIY section, a short Q&A is necessary.

    Q: Iím afraid of that red glass counter window on a bagmags lid. Modern emulsions are mostly sensitive to red light, so i wonder if it can fog my film? Do i need to seal it with lightproof material?
    A: No. It is true that most films used during Graflex heydays were orthocromatic, i.e. insensitive to red light, but it does not make this red windows a trouble-maker since the magazine is very light-tight. Iíve shot hundreds sheets of fast panchromatic film without any traces of fogging. However, keep in mind that it is recommended to check counter in subdued light.

    Q: A few septums in my bagmag are missing. Can i still use it?
    A: No. Sufficient number of septums is necessary to ensure firm pressure of the film and light-tightness. You can try replace missing septums with cardboard plates, but do not better try to pull it out into the bag.

    Q: My bagmagís leather is worn, but still seems to be light-tight. Can i still use it?
    A: No. Seriously, donít do it.
    Even finest leather becomes more like paper after 70 years. No exceptions. Iíve had over a dozen of bagmags and even those which looked like new had disintegrating leather. You may swap septums a few times without an issue (even hundred times), but rest assured, a corner of a septum will eventually tear the bag, ruining expensive film and your photography session. There is no way to restore the leather to its original suppleness. Iíve tried many different approaches and none of them worked. Even if it was possible, you still had to separate your bag and your mag, which is impossible without damaging the former.

    Basically, this is what this manual about. Replacing the bag is an unavoidable step. So letís make one! You will need a piece of leather and a strip of black-out fabric. Check light-tightness of all materials before you start.

    Remove an old bag carefully. You will need to unscrew metal pieces, then start tearing the bag off. Leather is fastened with two tiny nails - remove them. A forward piece of the bag is tuck into a copper plate, which is located under a forward wooden frame. You will need to remove 4 screws on the frame, the slide it out of the mag together with copper plate.
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    Use a flat screwdriver to unfold a crease on the copper plate, then remove the bag completely.
    Before cutting your leather you will need a template. Iíve attached templates for 3x4 bagmags as the most widespread type, both for 12 and 18 sheets. I currently do not have a template for 2x3, 4x5 or 5x7, but you can easily make them. Cut seams on your bag with a sharp blade, remove the black-out fabric strip and threads, apply glue on the inner surface of the bag and stick it to a piece of white cardboard. You may scan it now, then trace the shape of the bag in any vector software to make a template.
    Strips of black-out fabric used as a wadding in the seams to insure it light-tightness. Cut a wide strip, then fold it and secure it folded condition with duct tape. You will need them to stay on the place when sewing, so use leather glue. Apply glue along the edges on an external side of your bag and attach your strips, then apply glue on strips and stick the upper part of the bag. Strips' folds must face outwards. Trim off the excess.
    Attachment 197971
    Use a sewing machine to make seams along the edges. Use a smallest needle you can to keep needle holes as small as possible. Bagmag is designed in that way so seams always face the backside of your septums, so minor pinholes usually do not matter, but better avoid them. After this is done, turn the bag inside out and glue it to the mag.
    Hope this helps people to keep shooting on these great cameras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    Actually they do, as I just downloaded both,
    Indeed they do now again
    I've a 3x4 but still in good condition....

    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    I suggest anyone copy post 1 as OP can delete it all
    Why to imply he delete it all puzzles me....
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    Re: Graflex bagmag restoration manual

    You mistake my intent

    I was warning anybody who wanted the data, to save it, to their own device

    Our Internet is not forever

    ever

    I print many things I may want when...


    "BY MOTHER GOOSE
    Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
    Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
    All the king's horses and all the king's men
    Couldn't put Humpty together again."

    Lastly OP can delete



    Quote Originally Posted by Ron (Netherlands) View Post
    Indeed they do now again
    I've a 3x4 but still in good condition....



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    Re: Graflex bagmag restoration manual

    When I started in4x5 it was considered Medium Format.
    see private message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    I think OP made a few bags in all sizes then sold a few on eBay along with a service.

    I bought one bag and a bag installed on a Mag from OP

    Biz was slow

    Wait for OP
    Hello! That wasn't me actually I didn't sell any bags on ebay yet. My only service listing on ebay is https://www.ebay.com/itm/233731624018 (yes i do restore shutter curtains!).
    I didnt have an intention to delete the post btw, feel freee to ask me if you need help.

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