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  1. #11

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    Re: Citric and acetic acid as stop (bath)

    Quote Originally Posted by Doremus Scudder View Post
    Note: Some people use a water bath in place of an acid stop bath. There is still a "stop-bath" step in the workflow; the negative does not go directly from the developer to the fix.

    The above advice on dilutions are right on. Keep in mind, that if you mix a 28% acetic acid stock solution, as Alan suggests, you'll need to further dilute it to make your working solution.
    Thanks, Doremus, I forgot to mention that the 28% stock requires further dilution. FWIW, my use of acid stop or plain water generally is tied to what film developer I'm using on what film. For example, if I'm using a fast acting developer like HC-110(B) I'll tend to use an acid stop because the overall development time is short and that's a vigorous formula. When developing any film in any pyro formula, I always use plain water. For paper, it's citric acid and I mix fresh after about 10 8x10 sheets or equivalent.

  2. #12

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    May 2006
    north of the 49th

    Re: Citric and acetic acid as stop (bath)

    I use a water stop for all films. Agitation is important and will usually do two changes. For fiber prints, I use citric acid, one tablespoon per litre. The citric acid I use is food grade, and one I use at a community darkroom for outreach programs as well, since it's virtually odour free. Also gets dumped after every print session.
    notch codes ? I only use one film...

  3. #13

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    Re: Citric and acetic acid as stop (bath)

    Thanks for all this feedbcak guys. Its very helpfull and I apreciate this a lot :-)

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    Drew Wiley
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    SF Bay area, CA

    Re: Citric and acetic acid as stop (bath)

    I use glacial acetic acid at around 1/2 %, mixing just enough per daily session. I never re-use anything. It's nasty and appropriate precautions should be followed, including a fume hood. With safer 28% Indicator Stop Bath, I just dilute it to a light pee color, which amounts to about the same concentration.

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    Re: Citric and acetic acid as stop (bath)

    Kodak's SB-8 formula for citric acid stop bath is 15g/L. I keep a scoop in my big tub of citric acid powder that gives me approximately that much and just mix one-shot as needed. Throw a scoop in and add water. Takes about 10 seconds.
    Last edited by adelorenzo; 31-Oct-2019 at 11:12.

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    Joe O'Hara's Avatar
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    Marlton, NJ

    Re: Citric and acetic acid as stop (bath)

    Agree with Doremus, citric acid should be discarded at the end of the session (but it is good for quite a few sheets of film or paper).

    Aside from being odorless, it is very cheap if you buy it in big bags from canning or craft suppliers on the internet. There's no sense in
    buying it from photo chemical suppliers as though it were a specialty item. If "food grade" citric acid is good enough to put in your canned
    veggies it's plenty good enough for stop bath!
    Where are we going?
    And why are we in this handbasket?

  7. #17

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    Jun 2014

    Re: Citric and acetic acid as stop (bath)

    I generally keep my citric acid stop bath around for maximum ca 10 days. It's easy to tell when it goes bad as it will have strands of slime floating around in it. Discarding after one session is of course perfectly fine an prevents any problems.

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