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Thread: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

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    Smile 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    To make a long story short, I have a near-perfect Ektar 203mm f7.7 lens in a dead Flash Supermatic shutter, and an Anastigmat 203mm in a recently CLA'd No. 2 Supermatic.

    The lenses physically interchange between the two shutters with no problem.

    Question is, is there any chance that the two shutters differ in thickness? (I have no way to measure them accurately.)

    I'd like to put the Ektar in the good shutter.

    Of course the final answer is to try it, which I'll do. I'd just like to check that there isn't some Supermatic gotcha that everybody knows about but me.

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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    Since you have both shutters why not take the lenses out of them, put the shutters next to each other and put a good level across them. If the bubble is centered on the level then they are the same height.

    This technique also works for hanging picture frames on two hangers, nails or screws.

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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    Mr. Salomon's advice is quite sensible. Generally, post- WWII Kodak "Anastigmats" were uncoated versions of their coated "Ektar" lenses. I'd be very surprised if your two lenses didn't interchange.

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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    I have the both. Yes, they are interchangeable.
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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    I seem to remember hearing somewhere that Ektars were individually matched to their shutters, i.e., the spacing was adjusted to match the particular lens. So, do make sure the shutters are exactly the same length (good calipers are likely necessary) and be sure to transfer and shims that might be with the cells you are moving from one shutter to another.

    If your "dead" Supramatic can be resurrected, I'd recommend Carol Flutot and her crew. They've done exemplary work on my Supramatics in the past. http://www.flutotscamerarepair.com/

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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    Read this and the rest of the site. http://www.flutotscamerarepair.com/ContactUs.htm

    I put my 203 complete with bad OE shutter in front of a small Packard

    Fixing shutters is becoming a lost art.
    sin eater

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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    ....and if the OP doesn't send his 'dead' Supermatic somewhere for repair, the art is just that much closer to being lost. And the shutter still won't work.
    (Full disclosure: I had the 1948 Flash Supermatic shutter from my 135/6.3 Wide Field Ektar serviced in 1989. Judging by my exposures from last week, It's still working fine.)
    Let's take care of our gear- it results in better photos and more enjoyment from our hobby/craft/profession/art/not art.

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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sampson View Post
    ....and if the OP doesn't send his 'dead' Supermatic somewhere for repair, the art is just that much closer to being lost. And the shutter still won't work.
    (Full disclosure: I had the 1948 Flash Supermatic shutter from my 135/6.3 Wide Field Ektar serviced in 1989. Judging by my exposures from last week, It's still working fine.)
    Let's take care of our gear- it results in better photos and more enjoyment from our hobby/craft/profession/art/not art.
    If it was last serviced 30 years ago it will last much longer with an overdue CLA! Why not take it to Tempe Camera for a tune up?

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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    Good idea, Bob. I should walk it like I talk it... and I'll be in Phoenix later this month.
    And another full disclosure: I should never have sold my 203/7.7 Ektar.

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    Re: 203mm f7.7 lenses and shutters?

    Again I can recommend Henry Paine in Stockton CA: https://www.henrypaine.com (Though we don't know where the OP lives, maybe not even in North America). Henry has told me he basically works on all shutters. In any case he answers his emails quickly so it would be easy to confirm that he'll do a Supermatic.

    All of which reminds me I should send him my 203/7.7. Ektar in a rim-set Compur, speeds are OK but the press focus feature is sticky.

    David

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