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    What camera is this?

    I got this camera on ebay, it was advertised as 8x10 but plates I ordered don't fit and the inside dimensions are actually 7 1/8 by 9 1/2. anyone got any info? or preferable a place to get plates the correct size?

    also, how would I go about adding a shutter. kind of new to this all.

    thanks.

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    Re: What camera is this?

    Have you notified eBay and the seller that, while described as an 810, it is not an 810? Especially as the seller appears to be away till late this month!

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    Re: What camera is this?

    It is a European camera, so it is almost certainly their version of 8x10”, which is 18x24cm. You can also see the aspect ratio of the opening looks a bit narrower than the slightly more square 8x10” dimensions. I find images of that size to have a pleasing look. Depending on what you mean by plates — glass, aluminum? — you can either order or cut your own to size. Those are dry plate holders, so you may be intending to shoot the J Lane dry plates? If you want to use them for wet plate you will probably have to modify them. And if you are shooting plates (again, depending), you might not need a shutter. But it may all be a bit of a hassle, and since the sales price was not cheap, you may just want to return it...? You could find an actual 8x10 with a lens with a shutter (eventually, or just purchase one separately) for less pretty easily. No plate holders, to be fair, and those can run a bit at that size, but again, I guess it depends on what you are tying to do.

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    Re: What camera is this?

    Hmm. To add insult to injury, the lens on it is a 210/4.5 Xenar that doesn't cover 8x10. It is probably a whole plate camera (6 1/2 x 8 1/2). Measure the plate holders to find the size of the plate that will fit them.

    Shutter? The 210/4.5 Xenar goes in a Compur #3 Tube 7 shutter. Good luck finding one.

    The camera is not as represented and the seller's weasel words "We have no expertise on photography or photography equipment." are no excuse. Complain to eBay and to PayPal or your credit card issuer.

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    Re: What camera is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
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    The camera is not as represented and the seller's weasel words "We have no expertise on photography or photography equipment." are no excuse. Complain to eBay and to PayPal or your credit card issuer.
    I second this! In this age of 'googling' everything, don't let them get one over on you by feigning ignorance. That's a cop-out statement and should not be treated as a valid response to anything.

    Also once you get this settled, be sure to give them appropriate feedback so other buyers can be aware.

    Good luck.

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    Re: What camera is this?

    This is a very typical French (Walnut?) 18x24cm travel camera. It is the "turn the bellows" type which reduces the width of the camera. Because of the necessary rigidity, the bellows are often sturdier and in better condition than other types. The book type plate holders look to be in good condition. But after 100 years these can be a little in need of servicing.

    18x24" film (normal and x-ray) is still a standard item available through internet sites. Best in Berlin at quite normal prices - FOMA, for instance.

    This site doesn't allow evaluation, but I hope I misread the Ebay listing!

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    Re: What camera is this?

    A very nice camera!
    sin eater

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    Re: What camera is this?

    As Steven said "This site doesn't allow evaluation, but I hope I misread the Ebay listing!". I looked but I couldn't find the pictures of the other 1 or 2 cameras that must have come with it.

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    Re: What camera is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    A very nice camera!
    Very nice example but not at $1200 USD
    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncey Walden View Post
    As Steven said "This site doesn't allow evaluation, but I hope I misread the Ebay listing!". I looked but I couldn't find the pictures of the other 1 or 2 cameras that must have come with it.
    I could not agree more.

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    Re: What camera is this?

    Did any of you look up what else OP bought?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Pacilla View Post
    Very nice example but not at $1200 USD
    I could not agree more.
    sin eater

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