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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    Kerik Kouklis also went through a phase of working within a circular frame:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030207...om/newcirc.htm

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030207...om/portf_o.htm

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jac@stafford.net View Post
    Some lenses have a mechanical barrier which abruptly vignettes rather than gently falling off. Big difference.

    A photographer who printed oval shapes via masks was Henry Bosse. I've even stood in his tripod position twice - a hundred years removed.
    The Mamiya has a hard stop. See Sam Wang's work above. He's using a Mamiya 50mm f/6.3, among others.

    http://www.samwang.us/portfolio/cust...d-image-camera

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jac@stafford.net View Post
    Some lenses have a mechanical barrier which abruptly vignettes rather than gently falling off. Big difference.

    A photographer who printed oval shapes via masks was Henry Bosse. I've even stood in his tripod position twice - a hundred years removed.
    The 50mm f/6.3 when mounted in a compur 0 does not have this problem, i.e. no mechanical barrier.

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    Quote Originally Posted by MAubrey View Post
    The Mamiya has a hard stop. See Sam Wang's work above. He's using a Mamiya 50mm f/6.3, among others.

    http://www.samwang.us/portfolio/cust...d-image-camera
    He is using the lens in its original Mamiya mount. I took the cells out and put them in a Compur 0.

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    If you cut it down or put it in a 57 frame it won’t be a circle,
    Well I haven't tried it yet. I assumed the image circle will dramatically drop of due to the Biogon design and that the circle will be less than 5 inches and fit nicely on the film. Bob, have you tried this yourself?

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    Quote Originally Posted by linhofbiker View Post
    Well I haven't tried it yet. I assumed the image circle will dramatically drop of due to the Biogon design and that the circle will be less than 5 inches and fit nicely on the film. Bob, have you tried this yourself?
    I used to do kidnapping and one of the tricks was to shoot the kid with a 50mm lens with one arm crossed in front of him. That resulted in foreshortening with that arm looking like a football linesman arm. You then showed the parent two prints. One a full frame 11x14 and the other a vignetted oval that cut out that big arm. The decision had to made before I left and the vignetted picture was $1.00 extra which the photographer kept.

    The vignette was done in printing and you could easily make ovals and circles.

    So no, I have not done it your way but I have printed them and I have also used a fish eye lenses that gave circular results.

    Have also used filters from Heliopan that gave circular vignettes on film. They worked best with longer focal length lenses on any format camera.

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    In painting the round form is frequently called a tondo. It was somewhat commonly used in Renaissance art: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tondo_(art) With that in mind, one can search for examples.

    Here are two tondo paintings, separated by a few years:
    Holy Family / Doni Tondo, Michelangelo, 1507, https://www.uffizi.it/en/artworks/ho...the-doni-tondo
    Bombardment, Philip Guston, 1937, https://www.philamuseum.org/collecti...nt/305249.html

    The round format encourages certain types of tight compositions.

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    I do like circular images, and used to print them in the darkroom many years ago. But any time I've tried it in LF with a lens that vignettes on the format, I have been disappointed. No lens I've ever tried has a pleasant fall-off. I've always had to crop the image to considerably smaller than even the circular image projected by the too-short lens, which defeats the purpose and wastes more than half the film area. Better to simply vignette in-camera, in the darkroom, or photoshop.

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    Emmet Gowin made some interesting round photos. I recall reading an article about him in View Camera magazine, and he said he used a 90mm Angulon on a 8x10 view camera.

    https://artblart.files.wordpress.com...-1971-web1.jpg

    https://www.metalocus.es/sites/defau...gowin_1024.jpg

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3PFag7vFR4...wn+jackson.jpg

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    Re: Anybody like circular images?

    I like round just fine.

    What I don't like is hard edges.

    Prefer fades, OOF with hand torn deckle.

    Which resembles my actual human FOV vision.

    I also don't like glass or plastic of any kind over my prints. Even high end 'museum' grade.
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