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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    Don't be so sure about your plans.

    I'm 68.7, my father died age 87.3, mother age 95.6, some of us may live 40 or more years.

    Watchmakers can easily make any shutter part, or the whole thing.

    Demand is what matters.





    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Galli View Post
    I plan to be dead in 40 years. But I'm sure the film in my freezer will be put on ebay, so somebody's going to need a shutter. The Galli shutter only works if you're Italian. The no new lenses thread got me pondering this, but honestly, all the same reasons apply. No reason old shutters should fail in 40 years. But I thought ill of disrupting that thread. Again.
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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    Don't be so sure about your plans.

    I'm 68.7, my father died age 87.3, mother age 95.6, some of us may live 40 or more years.

    Watchmakers can easily make any shutter part, or the whole thing.

    Demand is what matters.
    Most maybe, not all. How do you think they could make replacement linear motors and carbon fiber parts for a Rollei PQ or PQS shutter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    Most maybe, not all. How do you think they could make replacement linear motors and carbon fiber parts for a Rollei PQ or PQS shutter?
    With 3D scanning and printing, some of the mechanical parts can be made, in fact turbine blades for jet engines are 3D printed and I cannot think of much more severe applications than that.

    However, obsolescence of electronic bits remains an ongoing issue, certainly in general industry and likely to plague our photo interests....

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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    Not LF and irrelevant to this forum's main thrust.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    Most maybe, not all. How do you think they could make replacement linear motors and carbon fiber parts for a Rollei PQ or PQS shutter?
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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    ND filters and hats.

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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    Good old fashioned lens in barrel and a good lens cap then count...


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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    Not LF and irrelevant to this forum's main thrust.
    Then explain the 0 and 1 size Rollei Linear Motor shutter’s sold in the past by Rodenstock, Schneider, Linhof and others.
    Make sure you search before commenting. You can see them at Linhof Studio on line.

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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    Obsolete electronic shutters need not apply.

    It should be more than obvious that Randy was talking about Copal/Compur/etc. mechanical shutters.

    I highly doubt modern Copal shutters will be a problem in my lifetime, and I'm much younger than most of you.
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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    I like the odds of well-maintained, simple mechanical leaf shutters working 40 years from now and long after. My own parochial view encompasses only Alphax and Betax shutters, and earlier this year I serviced a few large Betax shutters from 1923. There was nothing wrong that a simple CLA couldn’t fix, and I couldn’t see anything to stop these shutters from working for decades into the future.

    Alphax shutters have an even simpler mechanism and improved materials. The stamped metal parts are quite durable, springs can be fabricated if necessary, and spare parts are common for these shutters mass-produced over five decades. While I’d warmly welcome new shutters arriving on the market, I’m confident that the well-made tools of the past will continue to serve us far into the future.

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    Re: Ideas for new shutters 40 years from now when ours are all dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael E View Post
    LCD (liquid crystal display), I guess - just like in a watch or phone, without the back light. I read years ago that somebody was working on a shutter like this without moving parts. Today, it should be pretty easy to set up for anyone sufficient in electronics. Which I'm not. Bummer.
    The problem with the no-moving parts shutters are plenty. Total dark is an issue, not easy (or economically possible) to achieve with LCD or optical cell technology. You lose 1-2 stops by inserting those and they are driven by electronics with a shorter lifetime than mechanical shutters.

    Yes, I play with the things I just described.

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