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    Hope these help, let me know if you need more info

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    On top of the camera is also a brass level with horizontal/vertical, still with fluid in them amazing! I am assuming you have the two ends top and bottom to slide the lens board into??

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewch59 View Post
    On top of the camera is also a brass level with horizontal/vertical, still with fluid in them amazing! I am assuming you have the two ends top and bottom to slide the lens board into??
    Many Thanks Andrew, at last someone who really has the camera and taken the measures! Indeed with your help measuring the outlines I think I can go further now.
    I'll try to print your picture of the outline and of the back at the real measure in order to get an exact template.
    I'll let you know how it goes.

    ...and yes, my camera has both the upper and lower two ends to slide in the panel. The ends made it possible to measure the thickness of the panel - about 6mm.

    thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Bedo View Post
    Why not post in the wanted forum?

    Matching wood will be one issue. A somewhat more difficult issue may be matching the finish.
    Thank you Drew,

    As posted before in the meantime I bought a very beautiful and perfectly matching piece of Honduran Mahogany from an English luthier. He has more wood if needed, so for now the wooden part is settled. I had looked at England specifically since there's the biggest chance finding old pieces of wood that would match this British made camera.
    Matching the finish shouldn't be too difficult. My camera has quite a dull finish - shouldn't be too hard to replicate - I'll first try some finishes on a little remainder part of the wood....
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    Re: Rayments Patent camera - who has one? - need some measures

    Hope these help, let me know if you need more info
    Thank you Andrew, by a second look, it would help if you could also provide the height of the middle panel (A) and of the two breadboards (B & C):



    I guess the height of the two breadboards are the same, but not sure....

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    No worries Ron, B AND C are 18mil each and A is 51mil
    Just finished giving it a polish and found the serial number on the bottom 102

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    Re: Rayments Patent camera - who has one? - need some measures

    Hi Ron, just to add that the lens on the half plate, although I don't think it would be standard, is a Perken Son & Rayment euryscope 9x7 with waterhouse stops.

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    Re: Rayments Patent camera - who has one? - need some measures

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewch59 View Post
    Hi Ron, just to add that the lens on the half plate, although I don't think it would be standard, is a Perken Son & Rayment euryscope 9x7 with waterhouse stops.
    thanks Andrew, I guess the 'standard' lens for the half plate was the Perken, Son & Rayment Rapid Euryscope 5 x 7 which would cover completely; a lens which I would like to get hold of after I have made the lens panel. Your lens seems to fit (and be made for) the full plate Rayment. Does your full plate carry a different Perken lens?

    My camera seems to be a later make carrying nr 1461 and different from most Rayments on the internet, mine seems to have a bit more brass fittings.

    Did your camera's come with original holders (mine came with one Perken holder) ?

    btw after I have a detailed look at all your pictures I'll post all the measures as I understand them, just for double check. Further, I'll work with inches and fractions of inches, which might be more practical and accurate since it is a British camera. Luckily I can change my digital caliper from mm to inch.
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    Re: Rayments Patent camera - who has one? - need some measures

    I'm here to help, yes I think it came with three holders, and the original canvas bag. Does yours have two struts with brass framed cutout slot or just one??

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    Re: Rayments Patent camera - who has one? - need some measures

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewch59 View Post
    I'm here to help, yes I think it came with three holders, and the original canvas bag. Does yours have two struts with brass framed cutout slot or just one??
    Just one.....I'll upload a picture asap
    here you go...

    As you can see, mine is also missing the patent label. A 'straight taken' (perpendicular?) photo of that part might help to replicate it as accurate as possible.



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