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Thread: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    Correct. It has been a while since I last posted. Thus I was really 'surprised' by what I saw...
    When I "Logged-in" -- Earlier this afternoon.
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    I of course was not complaining. Just making a couple of 'observations' and comments Re: Some of the Forum Posts
    ("Nothing More and Nothing Less!").
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    However...

    Did you look at the FS/FT Forum today? I couldn't help but notice the 'Rapid Decline' in the Number of individuals viewing that 'specific' Forum:

    >> For Sale/For Trade (10 Viewing). <<

    Did you count the Number of 'Today's Posts'? You could read them all in 5 Minutes (and still have time to spare).
    It was 'factual' points like these... That led me to the 'Ghostown' observation.
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    Agree. If it's so painful for everyone, shut it down. The "concession" hasn't worked.
    As other Forum Members have observed; 'perhaps' the changes that were made three years ago...
    Were not in the best interest -- For the 'Long-term' vitality of this Forum?

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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    I have posted WTB ages ago with no responses yet, kind of just gets lost in there. Strange that you cannot have a discussion in the threads either, other forums allow that and members can pitch in and assist. Very different here...
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    Eric Woodbury
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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    When we had discussions here long ago, the first couple were generally okay, then people got lost in the weeds. And folks would take jabs. It was annoying. Better now, not perfect, but better.

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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    Quote Originally Posted by calebarchie View Post
    I have posted WTB ages ago with no responses yet, kind of just gets lost in there. Strange that you cannot have a discussion in the threads either, other forums allow that and members can pitch in and assist. Very different here...
    Y'know, it could be that no one wants to sell what you expressed an interest in buying. That is, no one who noticed your request had the thing(s) to sell.

    I don't follow the WTB section so I don't know whether you stated the price you'd pay. If you offered way below market that may have put off people who have the item(s) you wanted to buy.

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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    If something doesn't sell in 3 weeks, I close the thread and delete the price, I don't say it was sold.

    6 months later it sells without a bump.

    I do check WTB occasionally but seldom have what people want.
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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    The "For Sale" thread is a mere shadow of its former self ... sad ... and a loss for sellers and buyers.

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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    Quote Originally Posted by rdenney View Post

    But there may also be some complaining about the rules as being the cause of a general decline in the use of the sorts of things we talk about and trade.

    Many of us are already fully equipped, and the wave of buying used pro-grade large and medium-format film stuff being handed down from pros has perhaps run its course. Some items are getting more expensive (priced a good Pentax 67 lately?) but most are not, and this reflects the market. A year or so ago, I paid $300 in a high-end brick-and-mortar store for a Sinar P Expert kit (no lenses), with case and all the accessories, in really excellent condition. That $300 would barely have bought a Calumet ten years ago, and it’s what I did pay for a used Calumet 30 years ago when the Sinar would have been 10-20 times as much. I paid twice that a decade ago for a clapped out Sinar F that I had to just about rebuild.

    If sales aren’t working as well here, don’t be too quick to blame the guidelines.

    Rick “respectfully submitted” Denney
    I must respectfully disagree here, that most of us are well-equipped, thus the FS participation has abated as a result.
    This ignores all newbies who come along and need some cheap starter gear, as well as some older members looking for something different.
    Where would I, and many others, be without that kind of help and easy availability of gear? And the discussions of gear?
    The discussions also fostered a fraternal spirit, one that lent itself to helping others. I remember Christopher offering to send me a Linhof part for free my first week here.
    As a result, I used to offer up some small freebies in the FS section every month, as a way to give back a little bit. You won't find that spirit here anymore because we all have to wear blinders, look straight ahead, and not pass notes to each other.
    And I'll add: moderating is a thankless pain in the butt, and of course it isn't our forum.
    Let the forum take on whatever character it was intended to have. It may leave a mess sometimes, but it could also be a refreshing, revitalizing mess.

    Mods, I'll go stand in the corner now.

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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    Over the years, we've tried a wide range of options with FS/WTB, from very little regulation to considering deleting the section altogether. While allowing discussions inside FS/WTB threads was often beneficial, the unintended consequences were exploited for non-productive purposes by a few. We think the current structure and rules provide an optimal, even if imperfect, balance of interests.

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    Re: Clarification of FS/WTB bumping rules

    And now it's viewed and used by the fewer.

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