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    Re: Decent Video Camera for Website Posting?

    After market microphone options yes... Adobe Premier Elements yes. You can adjust sound level and fade in/out in each little clip in Elements. I don't think it will automatically sync sound from a separate recorder though. If shopping for a video camera, find something with the mic plug. If it's for talking, a clip on mic with a long cord is great and you don't need to deal with batteries. Room noise is less because it needs less amplification to hear you well. Low light is not that important; my $100 cell phone will record in red led safelight conditions with almost no noise; it's bright to the camera but not as bright to our eyes.

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    Premier Elements doesn't automatically sync sound, but it's easy enough to do by matching the sound waveforms from the camera and recorder. You can help yourself by imitating the clapper that the pros use - just clap your hands either at the beginning or end of the clip. You'll see it on the waveform tracks in Premier. If your camera is not recording sound, you'll match the sound of the clap to the hands meeting on the video - just like old-time Hollywood editors before the days of timecode.

    Rode makes an inexpensive shotgun mic for video that will mount on the hot shoe of your DSLR, if you're using that for video. It records good sound.
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    There's a fundamental law of audio: The camera position is never the best place for the microphone, but it is sometimes about the worst.

    If you're going to be talking over the video, you probably want a lavalier mic that will clip on to your shirt collar with a small recorder in your pocket or clipped to your belt. It will let you move around without altering the sound quality. If the mic is mounted on a stationary camera and you move around it will sound bad in stereo and even if you drop to mono, the sound strength will vary all over the place. One of the Zoom recorders or a 2nd hand Sony PCM should be enough.

    A Canon Vixia or something similar will be a good camera for what you're doing. I have 5 of them that I used for spot video when recording classical orchestras - sometimes had as many as 8 to 10 cameras running at a time. I never paid more than $100 - $125 for a refurbed Vixia at B&H. I'd avoid the GoPro - the lens is too wide for most stuff and the camera itself is too fussy - I have 3 of them that I'd use for things like a very wide audience shot from the back of the orchestra to pick up applause etc. I could trigger them from a smartphone app but the batteries don't last very long and the cameras were prone to losing the connection to the phone. Your smartphone should give adequate video but the audio on these things is at least three steps worse than atrocious.

    My main cameras were a JVC shoulder mount, a 2.5k Black Magic, a couple of Black Magic Pocket cams, and a Canon C-100. these are all nice cameras but gross overkill for what I think you want to do.

    I've used Vegas as well as Adobe Premiere Pro - I recommend Vegas since it has very good audio capability. It actually started out as an audio package and morphed into a video application. It's one of the most user friendly of the bunch and not too expensive. But it's PC only. I already have the full Adobe suite so no reason not to use Premiere but it has a steep learning curve. Black Magic makes a version of their DaVinci Resolve application available free of charge. It started as a color correction tool that was used by most of the Hollywood studios, but in the last few releases they've added enough general editing capabilities to satisfy most editing requirements. It's a fully professional (ie steep learning curve) piece of software even in the free version By the way, did I mention that it's free for download from the Black Magic website?

    https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/pro...avinciresolve/

    A couple of good online forums

    DVINFO.NET - Mostly aimed at digital video but has a rather good Audio sub-forum.

    Gearslutz.com. Strange name but most of the members are professional sound guys.

    There's an application called Plural Eyes. If you record into the camera you can use that as a synchronization track and it will sync up a bunch of audio tracks from separate recorders. after which you delete the camera audio track. Works well, but it's probably overkill and it isn't free.

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    Plural Eyes is great (I use it for DVD productions usually with 6+ cameras and audio) but yeah probably overkill for syncing a single mic and video source. And it's expensive ($300 now I see). One way to mitigate excessive sync issues is to record all your "takes" in one go and then just sync it once - and then link the A/V clips and cut your video. Of course sometimes this isn't possible.
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    I just clap at the beginning of a new clip and sync off the audio wave spike. It takes just a few seconds after you’ve done it a couple times. Getting a clapboard crosses my mind a couple times, but since I’m a one man operation it would really just be a waste of time and money.

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    Two cameras are always better than one...allowing different views in the edit (not as boring as having to watch someone for 30min) :>)
    Sometimes you can get some decent used eq from someone who is chasing better quality or 4K (Adorama, BH or KEH) for reliability sake.
    Sometimes local CL may have something, but you have to test all that really well. Looks like the Vixia (new) models are pretty
    reasonable + good recorder like Z4....will set you back around 500. Personally I like the old school (Sennheiser 416) mic, but
    Audio-Technica makes pretty good stuff too. I hear Rode mic is good, but never used it. Anyway, good shutgun mike will isolate you
    from many sounds around you. Ha, you add editing software and things get deeper......

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    Re: Decent Video Camera for Website Posting?

    I used to use a clapboard, but the organizers didn't like it so I started using Plural Eyes. I had a custom cable made up to take the tape out from a Sound Devices recorder at FOH into a Wi fi transmitter, then picked the signal up in the balcony and sent it to every camera as a sync track. Worked great. By picking up the signal at FOH I didn't have to worry about audio lagging video - the latency in the system was such that audio lagged by about two frames which was perfect. I usually had one moving camera and a few pre focused on the director and the soloist and the fingers on the keyboard etc. Great fun

    Can't agree more that two or three cameras are better than one - but it does make more work in post and color grading for the intercut footage.

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    I recently bought an iPad Mini 5 and it is working better, meaning sound and and video than a D750 with Rode Videomic

    I use it for Zoom, etc and made a HS graduation video for a grandson minutes ago

    My final words were, I sure hope to see him again!
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    I phone for anything on the web for me.. perfect device

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    Re: Decent Video Camera for Website Posting?

    I have zero skin in the video or audio game, but will you be recording sound during the videos, or will you be dubbing over video with audio/narration in post?

    One thing that I have noticed with my IPhone 11 Pro is that it is very good at picking up ambient noise. Distance might prove to be an issue with clarity, so a lavalier mic could prove to be useful.

    With any digital camera, even a phone, I would consider the brightness level of the screen if you are recording in the darkroom during printing sessions.

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