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Drew, If you are so against this lens existing, just don't buy it. Why try to force your opinion on others while shutting down their thoughts? Isn't the LF world big enough for a little competition? Since when is a new product a bad thing?
Sometimes love just ain't enough.
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There's nothing wrong with competition or someone new entering the arena. There is something wrong when there's the impression it's the same thing. It plainly isn't. But it might legitimately fill a very similar niche, which has yet to be proven. But glad someone found the discussion and banter interesting. Sure, I admit I'm playing devil's advocate, but that's part of sorting things out. I don't take web information at face value. It's as misleading as often as not. And if I bother people in this respect, they'd get skinned alive by certain very successful large format photographers not even participating on this forum who discuss their equipment almost like a religion. Some people enjoy that, some don't. No different than outdoor gear, or shop tools, or motorcycles, etc. I like refurbishing classic old enlargers, along with ways to significantly improve their performance, though I think I'm finally done doing that. Other people just want to buy one new and be done with it. I'm not forcing an opinion on anyone. It's a forum, for heaven's sake, where equipment is discussed from potentially different angles of view.
Pierre, while you're at it - take some more pics with your lens, you don't even need to show them here, and tell us more about your personal experience and results with the lens. It will be as authoritative as any other amateur opinion about it and you can make yourself the position of a first hand informer. How about it? Good luck!
So the Fujinon C 600mm F11.5 certainly seems to be a cult lens. 210mm Apo-Lanthar was another one of them. Got a chance to try one out back when and it was a really good lens but not worth its inflated price. Opted for a 210mm Nikkor with no regrets. Very seriously considered acquiring a Fujinon C 600mm a few years ago, but then found a mint 508mm f/7 Caltar in an Ilex #5 in mint condition for a mere fraction of the asking price for the 600mm Fujinon. Opted to acquire the slightly shorter 508mm Caltar. Little bit wider than the 600mm Fujinon but really not by all that much in practice. Plus the Caltar projects an image on my GG that looks like it is from a f/5.6 optic on my 8x10. Other alternatives for a Fujinon C 600mm F11.5 out there?
I had the pleasure of buying some tools in Germany, with the Made in Germany label, for which I paid good money. After the sale, I found out that they were made in China. I then learned that manufacturing in China is very common for everything. They can produce the real deal, and knock off articles.
"I have never in my life made music for money or fame. God walks out of the room when you are thinking about money." -- Quincy Jones
True. And it's unfortunate that if even 1% percent of plot of land contains actual land mines, it still warrants caution. In this case, I don't have any preconception about the specific lens in question, but do point out how nothing presented so far tells us what it really does. A token web posting of alleged sharpness, one brand versus another, might only indicate how a sheet of film happened to randomly lie flatter in one holder versus another. And we know nothing about the color correction of the lens (I use my 600C mainly for
color work); and the degree of color correction indeed affects B&W sharpness vs fringing because colored contrast filters come into play. Most of us can't realistically attend Photokina, and even if we did, it's somewhat of a "trial balloon" venue, testing the wind to
find out if there is market potential for a new product or not.
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